RE: [sword-devel] RSV Module Error, and module making

2003-12-14 Thread Stephen Denne
> It is nice to know that the formats did change or that there were some > problems with the system. I have been keep track of the mailing > list for a > while, a year + maybe, and I don't recall hearing that it needed > reimporting for the module. Although I am not aware of how to do a > reimport,

[sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Lynn Allan
Before the scars of the recent GPL thread have faded from memory, it would perhaps be appropriate to discuss the underlying issue. >From a Biblical perspective, what is the appropriate license(s) for The SWORD Project and/or The CrossWire Bible Society? What verses would the Bereans have found i

[sword-devel] MakeFile for Sword Engine.html

2003-12-14 Thread Lynn Allan
[sword-devel] MakeFile for Sword EngineSimon, Glad to hear it. While the process is "fresh", can you make notes about your experience setting up cgywin to assist subsequent volunteers to sword? (Perhaps TWiki if the maintainers feel this is approprate? or mvnForum?) There is a page about setting u

[sword-devel] MakeFile for Sword Engine [and GUI for Borland CBuilder 5.0 and 6.0 and X also]

2003-12-14 Thread Lynn Allan
Title: [sword-devel] MakeFile for Sword Engine Related question: How about makefiles for rebuilding Sword engine and gui using Borland's CBuilder 5.0 and/or 6.0 and CBuilderX? I'm pretty sure I know that these aren't available, but thought I'd ask.   Sharing the reason for the season, http://l

[sword-devel] Quasi-internationalized versions of LcdBible available

2003-12-14 Thread Lynn Allan
Title: [sword-devel] Quasi-internationalized versions of LcdBible available (spanish-rv, french-lsg, german-lut) Hi Sword-devel'ers,   >> How are you actually doing the i18n?  From this end it sounds like you >> might actually be maintaining separate codebases or something rather >> than usin

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Little
Lynn Allan wrote: Before the scars of the recent GPL thread have faded from memory, it would perhaps be appropriate to discuss the underlying issue. I'm not sure what you hope to gain by digging into this again. Asking once just indicates unfamiliarity. Asking twice indicates we lacked clarit

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Rev. Michael Paul Johnson
At 06:58 15-12-03, Chris Little wrote: ...In the simplest terms: >1) We cannot legally change our license right now. We use code owned by the Free >Software Foundation that is GPL licensed. Changing the licenses is not an option. This much is true. That is part of the beauty of the GPL, and the

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Little
Rev. Michael Paul Johnson wrote: At 06:58 15-12-03, Chris Little wrote: ... PD is anti-"IP". It destroys an idea's economic value (but certainly not its intellectual value) by making it free to all. And what's more, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL! (disclaimer: PD is only unconstitutional if you reside

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Rev. Michael Paul Johnson
At 09:26 15-12-03, Chris Little wrote: Rev. Michael Paul Johnson wrote: At 06:58 15-12-03, Chris Little wrote: ... PD is anti-"IP".  It destroys an idea's economic value (but certainly not its intellectual value) by making it free to all.  And what's more, it's UNCONSTITUTIONAL! (disclaimer: PD i

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:07, Rev. Michael Paul Johnson wrote: > A commercial project can use PD code or LGPL code, but it > cannot use GPL code. False. Many of them do, the classic example being Microsoft's Services For Unix (SFU), which includes not just GPLed code but the GNU Compiler Collection

Re: [sword-devel] Still more about licencing

2003-12-14 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 10 December 2003 12:39 pm, Lynn Allan wrote: > I would probably prefer to release LcdBible and the InVerse Scripture > memorization freeware to the Public Domain than use the GPL as it seems to > be understood on The SWORD Project. I don't really want to get into this as I work on man

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Rev. Michael Paul Johnson
At 10:37 15-12-03, Leon Brooks wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:07, Rev. Michael Paul Johnson wrote: > A commercial project can use PD code or LGPL code, but it > cannot use GPL code. False. Many of them do, the classic example being Microsoft's Services For Unix (SFU), which includes not just GPLe

[sword-devel] P.D. Issue

2003-12-14 Thread RDN12345
Lynn, I do not presume to speak for the Sword Project, but here is how I see the situation. Corporations are always looking for more profit potential. They already have mechanisms in place for production, distribution, and marketing. If anything of value such at the sword api were placed in the

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Leon Brooks
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:24, Rev. Michael Paul Johnson wrote: >> A commercial project is quite at liberty to include GPLed code, >> providing that any derivatives are also GPLed. > Yes, but then it is not "commercial." [...] I mean that it is > restricted from modification, distribution, and sale ex

[sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Lynn Allan
> I don't really want to get into this as I work on many gpl projects. I have > increasingly lately seen many people asking these types of questions and then > flat our right stealing the code and selling it on ebay or whatever. > Most of us prefer the gpl for it's relative safety against those tr

Re: [sword-devel] New Windows SWORD GUI

2003-12-14 Thread Jason Turner
I just thought I should mention my BibleStudy (a.k.a. wxSword) that is hosted at www.sf.net/projects/christiangame the development is a little stale, but it is a fully functioning wx based alternative to the current windows ui. -Jason Turner On Friday 12 December 2003 06:45 am, Lynn Allan wrote

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Sunday 14 December 2003 08:56 pm, Lynn Allan wrote: > Philippians 1:12-18 seems, to me, to strongly indicate we shouldn't care > whether this does or doesn't happen. I think people are missing the point > of my original eMail: what is Biblical guidance on this question? WWJD? I dont really care

Re: [sword-devel] Bereans and Sword and GPL vs PD

2003-12-14 Thread Chris Little
Lynn Allan wrote: The LcdBible software is also an open source sourceforge.net project using the Mozilla 1.1 license. My impression is that Mozilla 1.1 is GPL compatible based on section 13 (whatever that means). Mozilla 1.0 is not GPL compatible. I have read the entire gpl faq, but ianal. http:/