Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Chris Little
On 2/29/2012 5:06 AM, David Haslam wrote: It might help if CrossWire bugs in JIRA had a project for all our preprocessing scripts. The API project includes Sword utilities, but there is no formal means to report scripting bugs. Moreover, its generally unclear who owns what for these, and whethe

Re: [sword-devel] BibleTime indexing problem

2012-03-01 Thread Gary Holmlund
On 02/28/2012 08:21 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: So, a little background. SWORD keys handle versification + 4 special slots: chapter intro book intro testament intro module intro These are positioned respectively using, for example starting with John 3:16 VerseKey k("John 3:16"); k.setVers

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Your new wiki page has been categorized and linked. DFH -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/preverse-divs-tp4429131p4436753.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing lis

[sword-devel] OT : Patheos | Mobile Faith

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Hart
FYI: SXSW Pre-event This came across my desk and I thought it may be of value to some on the list. If you are going to be there, let me know. I am planning to go. http://www.patheos.com/Events/mobilefaith-SXSW.html Join us for mobile.faith @ SXSW Interactive Patheos and Cadabra Media presen

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Patrick Zimmermann
Hey, this is great to hear, thank you! if you want to have a look at what I put together: https://gitorious.org/offene-bibel-converter/osis-showcase-module It contains a bible and a commentary. A module is created with make.sh. When compiled to a sword module several issues show up though, as I

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel Owens
Not sure if my initial email went through, but I will take up the task of creating an example OSIS document. I started one at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BCVExample. It probably does not validate yet, so don't jump on me yet. I need to go but will work more on it later. I will eve

Re: [sword-devel] Setting canonical="true" ?

2012-03-01 Thread DM Smith
On 03/01/2012 03:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: But as a module encoder, I'd do it the way the OSIS defaults are :) good. You are a purist, but you are also practical DM! That's one of the many things I like about you. , with one exception: uh oh... The element. OK, I think what y

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel Owens
Hmmm, that sounds like a tantalizing assignment, that is, if developers pay attention. :) Such a document would need to have excerpts from various parts of the Bible, including especially the Psalms and the Gospels since between them several of the odd markup issues show up. If someone were to

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Patrick, Well, the KJV2003 project would have been my idea fore best practices markup for OSIS, but it now lives at the KJV2006 and I would guess now represents DM's idea of best practices for OSIS markup :) The tutorials also were meant to iterate the most used features of OSIS to give an e

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
The KJV module hosted by CrossWire is pretty "showcase" in many ways. The OSIS file for the KJV module is available here: http://www.crosswire.org/~dmsmith/kjv2006/ See the links at the foot of the page. See also the list of potential issues in http://crosswire.org/wiki/User:Dmsmith/KJV2011 Th

Re: [sword-devel] Setting canonical="true" ?

2012-03-01 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
On 03/01/2012 03:23 PM, DM Smith wrote: In most cases use of the canonical attribute is straightforward, and the default values will almost always produce the intended result. However, there will arise truly difficult cases: for example, one may be encoding an ancient text with annotations of i

Re: [sword-devel] How does one uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Using TextPipe on the output of mod2imp, I just did some analysis of the module ChiUns. See http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/browse/MOD-199 in which I observe that there are 46 completely empty lemmas and 4646 instances of Chinese text assigned to an empty lemma. Prior to creating the issue, I'd al

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Benjamin Misja
Would anybody have a moment to answer Patrick's question? He's working on a new module that is really important to some people including myself. :-) Thanks a lot, Ben Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012, 19:23:29 schrieb Patrick Zimmermann: > On Wednesday, 29. February 2012 15:29:31 Troy A. Griffit

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 1.3.2012 15:41, David Haslam wrote: >> >> Nine executables normally found in Sword utilities are not included in the >> Xiphos bin folder. > > > Couldn't the specialized utilities intended for developers rather than > end-users be provided se

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread Matej Cepl
On 1.3.2012 15:41, David Haslam wrote: Nine executables normally found in Sword utilities are not included in the Xiphos bin folder. Couldn't the specialized utilities intended for developers rather than end-users be provided separately? E.g., in the page you mentioned in other thread (http:

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Thanks Greg, > > Can you add the really useful ones, like emptyvss, to the next release? > > This would ensure that anyone who install a Xiphos version that happens to > be more recent than the compiled utilities on the CrossWire site will have

Re: [sword-devel] How does one uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files?

2012-03-01 Thread DM Smith
On 03/01/2012 12:02 PM, David Instone-Brewer wrote: I need to get hold of the tagged Chinese Bible texts in a readable form because I'm trying to get some Chinese readers to check some issues with the tagging. Does anyone know how to uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files? Use mod2

Re: [sword-devel] How does one uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files?

2012-03-01 Thread Matej Cepl
On 1.3.2012 18:02, David Instone-Brewer wrote: I need to get hold of the tagged Chinese Bible texts in a readable form because I'm trying to get some Chinese readers to check some issues with the tagging. Wouldn't be the source text available in the same place where you get them from in the fi

Re: [sword-devel] Setting canonical="true" ?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Reading DM's very detailed comments on Troy's input, it would seem that there is still a good case to enhance usfm2osis.pl and imp2osis.pl scripts to include adding the attribute canonical="true" to all the specified elements. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nab

Re: [sword-devel] How does one uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Hi David, CrossWire modules' internal file format is proprietary! This should not be surprise - despite our commitment to open source software. The correct procedure to use the SWORD API to obtain information stored in the module. There are a number of Sword utilities that can output some of the

[sword-devel] How does one uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files?

2012-03-01 Thread David Instone-Brewer
I need to get hold of the tagged Chinese Bible texts in a readable form because I'm trying to get some Chinese readers to check some issues with the tagging. Does anyone know how to uncompress the Crosswire nt.bzz and ot.bzz files? I tried renaming them as ZIP and GZIP etc but didn't get anywhe

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Thanks Greg, Can you add the really useful ones, like emptyvss, to the next release? This would ensure that anyone who install a Xiphos version that happens to be more recent than the compiled utilities on the CrossWire site will have the latest version from SVN. Just a "nice to have" rather tha

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:41 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Nine executables normally found in Sword utilities are not included in the > Xiphos bin folder. > > See diff file pasted below: > > diff B xiphos.exe.log utils.exe.log > 0a1 >> addgb.exe > 1a3,4 >> addvs.exe >> cipherraw.exe > 3,5c6,7 > < gdb.e

Re: [sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Greg already explained (under the other thread): Because I had $ ls -l /usr/i686-w64-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/bin/ | wc -l286 files to look through when creating the Xiphos package and I had to identify at a glance which ones were relevant. Also because the public had access to several betas of Xip

[sword-devel] Sword utils not shipped with Xiphos for Windows?

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Nine executables normally found in Sword utilities are not included in the Xiphos bin folder. See diff file pasted below: diff B xiphos.exe.log utils.exe.log 0a1 > addgb.exe 1a3,4 > addvs.exe > cipherraw.exe 3,5c6,7 < gdb.exe < gspawn-win32-helper-console.exe < gspawn-win32-helper.exe --- > empty

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Haslam wrote: > I tried the following command: > > utils\emptyvss CzeCSP | find /v "Genesis" > > and the output was > > II Kings 15:39 > Nehemiah 7:73 > Mark 11:26 > > btw. There were no lines referring to ICU like you saw. > > II Kings 38 probably combines tw

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Matej Cepl
On 1.3.2012 15:05, David Haslam wrote: II Kings 38 probably combines two adjacent verses earlier in the chapter. CSP verse 37 corresponds to KJV verse 38. Probably a somewhat similar situation in Nehemiah 7. Mark 11:26 is one of the verses commonly missing from modern translations. See http://e

Re: [sword-devel] Setting canonical="true" ?

2012-03-01 Thread DM Smith
From a practical perspective, SWORD or JSword only look at canonical on titles to determine whether hiding titles and intros (aka headings) should include them. Just a few comments about my understanding. Probably a purist;) From the manual (v2.1.1), page 18. > When canonical="true", it means t

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
I tried the following command: utils\emptyvss CzeCSP | find /v "Genesis" and the output was II Kings 15:39 Nehemiah 7:73 Mark 11:26 btw. There were no lines referring to ICU like you saw. II Kings 38 probably combines two adjacent verses earlier in the chapter. CSP verse 37 corresponds to KJV

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Matej Cepl
On 1.3.2012 13:08, David Haslam wrote: I think I already emailed you about this in December. Right, and I have made a bug about that https://luther.ceplovi.cz/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28 and closed thinking it has been fixed. Apparently not completely yet. Reopening. More issues? Thank you

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 1.3.2012 13:41, Martin Denham wrote: There is a Sword utility called emptyvss that lists empty/missing verses. The problem with Genesis was really 'Ge' instead 'Gen', but still the same I tried emptyvss and found interesting results: $ emptyvss CzeCSP UTF8Transliterator: ICU: no resource

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
The book osisID for Genesis should "Gen" not "Ge". Already emailed you, but this should prevent you being inundated with further replies in the same vein. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/CzeCSP-ready-for-Beta-testing-I-hope-tp4434380p4434771.html Sen

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Where are all the pilcrow signs ¶ in the printed edition? At the end of a paragraph (as in your module), or at the start of a paragraph (like the KJV)? If the latter, then you should place them correctly, to reflect where the published version has them. I think I already emailed you about this i

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 1.3.2012 11:22, David Haslam wrote: Send the new module (or a link to it) to Chris. Hmm, maybe not yet. Does anybody have any idea why http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/CzeCSP.zip (generated from http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/bible.xml.zip) is missing the book of Genesis? Everything e

Re: [sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Send the new module (or a link to it) to Chris. http://mailto:modu...@crosswire.org modu...@crosswire.org With details of course, though he would already have read this message. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/CzeCSP-ready-for-Beta-testing-I-hope-t

[sword-devel] CzeCSP ready for Beta testing (I hope)

2012-03-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, I have (hopefully) finally got CzeCSP to the shape that it is ready for preliminary testing. All major bugs are IMHO eliminated (the only known are on https://luther.ceplovi.cz/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product:CzeKMS). Generated OSIS XML file is on http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/