Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Little
On 1/4/2013 12:11 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Chris Little mailto:chris...@crosswire.org>> wrote: We've actually had specific discussions with you about our not wanting you to redistribute our modules, specifically because of copyrighted content such as

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
Peter, please temper your judgement with mercy. Your claims here are neither correct nor fair. On Friday, January 4, 2013, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: > > It is clear. Your lack of respect for what is expressed in the conf file > re Distributi

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: > That said, whatever you decided to do with respect to (re)distribution > rights will be honoured, but it needs to be clearly communicated. If > modules are not to be redistributed, impose that constraint and be > transparent about it. It

Re: [sword-devel] CMake ICU (was Re: cmake python)

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
I'm curious, why do people seem to prefer cmake to make? Is that a python thing? ~A On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Greg Hellings > wrote: > >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM, wrote: > >

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
I don't actually have ssh access to CrossWire, so I'm not using the rsync protocol, rather I do have ftp access so using ftp, if a module is removed from CrossWire, the change is detected and removed from my mirror. Basically I'm using FTP to replicate RSYNC functionality, but yes - additions, cha

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
Sounds good. A few notes, - the STEP interlinear functionality tries (tried?) to use this functionality to provide better interlinears. We currently don't use the x-split/or src, but could do either. - With H00, it was accepted that H00 almost always referred to the next tag, when

[sword-devel] CMake ICU (was Re: cmake python)

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Greg Hellings > wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM, wrote: >>> Here's a patch that helps some with osistest. I still get the >>> following error when I run osistest, though: >>> UTF8Transliterator: ICU: no res

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Andrew, How do you handle modules that are removed from CrossWire? Do you use rsync w/ --delete? -- DM On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Andrew, > > I was careful not to say what you proposed. The quote you suggest i

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
And, a lot of the the tools using mirrors are generally addressed to a fairly technical community. The other big difference is obviously that the linux community is massive, and we are small in comparison. But I'm all up for more resilience if that's something we've had an issue with? On 4 Januar

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Regarding Fedora, I find that the mirrors differ significantly. Some have old releases, but no new releases. Some have the latest release but no updates. Some may have the alphas and/or the betas. Using yum, I have had some updates fail because they have dependencies that have not reached the mi

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > There are two separate issues here. > > 1- The fact that we retrieve the closest match to a strong number is IMHO > rather obscure and confusing in itself. I've hit this several times and found > through rather laborious investigation that a m

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, DM Smith wrote: > Andrew, > > I was careful not to say what you proposed. The quote you suggest is > technically/true/correct/good as far as it goes. The other bullets I gave > are why we discourage mirroring even for those. > You're (licensing) reasons for wantin

Re: [sword-devel] cmake python

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Ben, I just made a series of commits which further improve handling of Python builds. They do the following: 1) Move handling of bindings configuration up a directory level so CMake can include support for bindings other than SWIG in the future (unrelated to your complaint) 2) Add detection for t

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
There are two separate issues here. 1- The fact that we retrieve the closest match to a strong number is IMHO rather obscure and confusing in itself. I've hit this several times and found through rather laborious investigation that a module was using a bad strong number, or some piece of code hadn

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, DM Smith wrote: > If someone posts to sword-support a problem with the text in a module (we > get these all the time), having mirrors complicates support. If Fedora can have many dozen mirrors, and Debian can have many dozen mirrors and so can every Linux distribut

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Andrew, I was careful not to say what you proposed. The quote you suggest is technically/true/correct/good as far as it goes. The other bullets I gave are why we discourage mirroring even for those. For example, in your mirror (I think you still have it available), are there any modules that a

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
It's a good idea to put this in the wiki. Might I recommend (since it appeared previously on this list "Legitimate FTP Mirrors & Module Distribution Rights Question") that the following be added: "Modules specifically licensed to Crosswire may not be redistributed. For all others, as long as the

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Chris Little wrote: > We've actually had specific discussions with you about our not wanting you > to redistribute our modules, specifically because of copyrighted content > such as this for which WE have permission. YOU are not CrossWire. Any > reasonable person w

[sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
From time to time, interest has been expressed in mirroring CrossWire's SWORD modules. I thought I'd reiterate our policy. We strongly, very strongly, discourage mirroring of the SWORD module repository. Those modules for which CrossWire has obtained distribution permission from copyright holde