Re: [sword-devel] Minimum Version conf entry

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 08:22 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > I hope you're not duplicating existing wiki content. There are other features which influence the minimum number one shoudl give a module - image formats added, ruby etc etc. Peter ___

Re: [sword-devel] Minimum Version conf entry

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Oh - yes - indeed, but those are not so commonly encountered. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Minimum-Version-conf-entry-tp4655537p4655544.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Greg Hellings
If CrossWire is eligible for the same type of free license on Stash and Bamboo that we receive for JIRA, I can help automate this process into requiring only a commit to a Stash repository which automatically initiates the build and deploy of modules. Some nice integration points exist between

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
As regards details, I've replied in an email direct to you. I didn't include any crap in the conf files. It conforms to what is described in the wiki page. Module makers should want to first satisfy themselves that the module works properly. That's why I included all the relevant lines in the

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Which parts are required and which are not should be documented in the wiki page. I still don't really understand why this has to be done. It's a huge change from how modules have always been submitted. If I find it confusing, I'm sure others with less experience will. David -- View this

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 08:20 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > Module makers should want to first satisfy themselves that the module > works > properly. > That's why I included all the relevant lines in the conf. There is nothing stopping you from creating your own conf file. This does not release you

[sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
To move on from the ugliness on the other thread a new one. I would appreciate a heads up and some advice: David has pointed at some serious corruption in the conf files. Contrary to his assumption this has nothing to do with my computing a conf file mechanism but happens somewhere en route

Re: [sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Peter, I think you chose a wrong file to paste into the email. The two illustrations are from different modules. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/zip-unzip-weirdness-technical-advice-please-tp4655541p4655543.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 09:24 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > If I find it confusing, I'm sure others with less experience will. It is not because I am able to tell simply send me a long and a short spiel about your module and advise me of the copyright situation. Which reflects the three minimum

Re: [sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
My first guess would be to check the operation of the engine's installer. The zip, unzip, and scp programs are all very stable, reliable, well tested, and highly unlikely to cause that sort of thing to happen by themselves. On 12/26/2015 07:18 AM, Peter

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Wow. A little grace would go a long way in this thread. I don't regard the idea of automatic conf file generation as fundamentally flawed. I recommend it, as long as it is done well. I do it all the time. I just start with a more complete set of

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread DM Smith
IMHO: The approach is not *fundamentally* flawed. Perhaps it should be advisory at this time. But there are certainly some elements that are purely mechanical and these can be automated. And should be. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) > On Dec 26, 2015, at 6:45 AM, David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
I understand the motivation behind it, which is to save time, by having a repeatable method that can be launched by a single click (as it were). But it's not saving time overall because it's being done so badly. It's wasting time for those of us who submitted good working modules! This causes a

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 07:16 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > > But it's not saving time overall because it's being done so badly. > Well it has saved my time - apart from answering your emails I have even cumulatively spend less time on this than on any publication prior, including republication

[sword-devel] Minimum Version conf entry

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The reason for this entry is to protect old frontends from new modules.  The problem with this is that probably no one I have ever asked has a complete and reliable overview of which "minimal version" reflects which specific additional feature set. As a result some modules have been added which

Re: [sword-devel] Minimum Version conf entry

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
I've only used it in relation to the list already given in http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification I hope you're not duplicating existing wiki content. David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] Developers' wiki down?

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
The wiki is up again now, as is the main site. Thanks DM. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Developers-wiki-down-tp4655520p4655527.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [sword-devel] Malayalam Bible 1910 published

2015-12-26 Thread DM Smith
The element allows HTML. It shouldn't be either of the examples. The first wasn't HTML and had <...> not escaped. The second was close but had escaped for <> when it shouldn't. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) > On Dec 26, 2015, at 6:37 AM, David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Malayalam Bible 1910 published

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
That was an artifact of me using the Nabble mirror. This list has far too much traffic to allow it to come into my email client on my Windows PC. I know that using Nabble is deprecated, but I'm not willing to put my PC at risk, or use up oodles of storage. btw. Though Nabble has a Raw text

Re: [sword-devel] Malayalam Bible 1910 published

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Peter, The correction does not conform to the way in which ShortPromo should be formated. You now have ShortPromo= Proofreading completed. It should look like this. ShortPromo=a href="https://github.com/tfbf/sathyavedapusthakam;>Proofreading

Re: [sword-devel] 4 new French public domain translations

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Sadly, they are still not right. fresynodale1921.conf is terrible. Generating conf files by scripting is fundamentally flawed. Please restore my original conf files. David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Recent experience of how badly this works in practice has led me to the conclusion that the approach is fundamentally flawed. When an experienced module developer submits a module for release, it is unacceptable for his work to be altered by scripted changes to the conf file. This reflects badly

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Michael writes, "Wow. A little grace would go a long way in this thread." Admittedly, I've expressed some things rather strongly. That's simply because until earlier this evening, I was the only one seeing the issue. The script-generated conf files I installed from the repo contained lines that

Re: [sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread Norbert Bollow
On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:06:13 -0800 (PST) David Haslam wrote: > It's something very weird indeed. > > Lines were there after the supposed > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-file > > How they got there is what now needs to be determined. Maybe a malfunction of a RAM or

[sword-devel] answering subscription requests?

2015-12-26 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Someone in IRC #sword is wondering why he hasn't successfully gotten onto this list yet. He claims to have sent appropriate messages to appropriate places. Is there a queue in need of address? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
It's something very weird indeed. Lines were there after the supposed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-file How they got there is what now needs to be determined. David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Nic Carter
I love good bug reports. They help fix issues. Details & how and why something is wrong will lead to correct fixes. (Well, mostly! It relies on having free time to implement the fixes, hey!) I love the idea of all of this being automated, but it relies on more work initially to refine to tools

Re: [sword-devel] zip/unzip weirdness technical advice please

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Ok, one step forward. I am not sure if I am dealing with a bug or with my own limitations here, but I do think a installmgr bug is more likely: If I use the installmgr to install a new iteration of an existing module on my own computer, in my home directory, with an installation owned (in a UNIX

Re: [sword-devel] answering subscription requests?

2015-12-26 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Done. I received the request at 11:51am this morning and just returned home from spending Christmas with my parents, sisters, and brother (and lots of little nieces and nephews). Sorry for the delay. On 12/26/2015 05:58 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Someone in IRC #sword is wondering why he