Re: [sword-devel] eBible.org OSIS files regenerated again

2013-06-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
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Re: [sword-devel] Mailing list archives

2012-10-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 10/20/2012 12:39 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > Question: dt some mistake I lost my mailing list archives. I really do > not want to use the web interface of mailman (or nabble) for old stuff. > Nor do I want to download millions of single month tar.gz packages. > > Is there a way to download t

Re: [sword-devel] sword-tools file permissions

2012-09-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/26/2012 02:40 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Is there a reason why executable scripts in sword-tools are not > marked as executable? Is that a limit of Subversion? I thought svn > supported such but I'm not sure. svn propset svn:executable on is probably what is needed (followed by svn comm

Re: [sword-devel] Jira is down...

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/17/2012 05:40 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Well I wouldn't wish to update the settings on my computer here in > the UK from GMT, would I? > > But an inexperienced user might respond with the wrong choice! I don't understand. There is no wrong choice. Either update your settings in Jira, or

[sword-devel] Time Zone settings (per user, not per server) (was: Re: Jira is down... )

2012-09-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/17/2012 04:02 AM, David Haslam wrote: > The latest and greatest version of JIRA now sports this top message: >> Your computer's time zone does not appear to match your user >> setting of (GMT-07:00) Phoenix. Click here to update your >> settings. Note that these are *your* settings, for yo

Re: [sword-devel] The poor man's interlinear

2012-09-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/08/2012 02:22 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Here's a more detailed list of requirements from my friend (who's a > volunteer for MissionAssist). > > 1. Definitely different encodings. This is where ALL comparison > programs fall down. ... Would it be worthwhile to work around this by recoding o

Re: [sword-devel] The poor man's interlinear

2012-09-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/07/2012 12:34 AM, David Haslam wrote: > /One my friends recently asked:/ > > Do you know of any program that will load two text files (plain text or Word > files) and display them interlinearly? > > /Here's my reply:/ > > Not off hand, but here's an easy workaround using Excel. That's a

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod very happily generates modules with no text visible

2011-12-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
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Re: [sword-devel] compile error on (x)ubuntu 11.10 : "_FTPLIB_NO_COMPAT" redefined

2011-12-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/11/2011 06:45 PM, Paul A. Martel wrote: > For the record, there was nothing so obvious as a "libcurl-dev" > package listed in the package manager. The actual package that seems > to have worked for me was "libcurl4-gnutls-dev". Other listed > packages that I didn't try but that might have wo

Re: [sword-devel] Osis2mod fail to convert my OSIS file to Sword module

2011-11-10 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/10/2011 11:37 AM, Paal G. wrote: > I have a feeling it is a memory problem, is the command line in > Windows XP limited to 640kb? No. > Where can i get osis2mod for Linux? Which Linux did you have in mind? osis2mod is part of the libsword8 package in Debian and Ubuntu. So a quick s

Re: [sword-devel] New Latvian NT looks weird

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 10/29/2011 01:36 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Jonathan - why the reference to Latvian version 1.1 ? No specific version or specific repository was stated. So, I (perhaps naively?) did the "obvious" quick test, and just installed the version currently in the repository. I then noted the version

Re: [sword-devel] New Latvian NT looks weird

2011-10-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 10/29/2011 12:40 PM, Martin Denham wrote: > The new version of the Latvian NT seems very unusual with lots of > unexpected characters when displayed in And Bible. Could somebody > check it? It (Latvian New Testament, version 1.1) looks similarly mangled in both diatheke and BibleTime 2.8.

Re: [sword-devel] Russian russynodal (prize for maximum use of negation?)

2011-07-10 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 07/09/2011 10:07 PM, Chris Little wrote: > Doesn't And Bible not support av11n? If it doesn't, I would not That's a *lot* of "doesn't" and "not" -- rewriting this with fewer negations, for ease of parsing, would be good. I think you just won a prize for maximum use of negation? :) Jonathan

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Removing XULRunner from oneiric - call for help

2011-06-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/19/2011 01:55 PM, Matthew Talbert wrote: >> Is Xiphos going to be able to switch away from xulrunner in time to >> stay in Ubuntu Oneiric Alpha 2? > What's the deadline? I see he mentions the end of this week as a > deadline for at least saying we're taking responsibility, but when > do w

[sword-devel] Fwd: Re: Removing XULRunner from oneiric - call for help

2011-06-19 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I just saw this in the ubuntu-motu mailing list. Things look bad for xiphos at first glance. Is Xiphos going to be able to switch away from xulrunner in time to stay in Ubuntu Oneiric Alpha 2? Jonathan Original Message Subject: Re: Removing XULRunner from oneiric - call for he

Re: [sword-devel] Error reading ulBuffNum

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/25/2011 07:21 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Error reading ulBuffNum > > These are sent to stdout, rather than stderr, ... > Is anyone actually doing something about this? > > (a) to ensure that these error messages are propelrly sent to stderr > (b) to fix the utils so that this particular er

Re: [sword-devel] Ubuntu 11.04 (and libsword9 status)

2011-05-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/30/2011 11:10 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > For some reason either Debian or Ubuntu refuses to get the latest > BibleTime version. If I remember this rightly, I was told (I think by Dmitrij) that the latest BibleTime and Xiphos need libsword9. I don't think I got a clear explanation of what s

Re: [sword-devel] forwarding sword-support to sword-devel

2010-11-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Chris, On 11/15/2010 6:15 AM, Chris Little wrote: > Barry, please do not cross-post sword-support mail to sword-devel, > especially not with users' personal information left intact. It > seems like every 6 months or so I have to repeat this request. ... > So everyone on the support list, please

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire lacks a Content Management System

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 11/08/2010 08:51 PM, Nic Carter wrote: > the good thing about it is that we can make one promote the various > front-ends and the other can promote dev/module making? However, I > think we need a better way of switching between the 2 than Mozilla > do. A link to the wiki from http://crosswire

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 9/29/2010 5:46 PM, Weston Ruter wrote: > In English, a hyphen is a orthographic convention required when > spelling various compound words: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_compound#Hyphenated_compound_adjectives Therefore, in English, it is not a letter. Q.E.D. (since someone on this l

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Robert, On 9/29/2010 3:57 PM, Robert Hunt wrote: > Oh! I guess I've been using hyphenated words in English since I learnt > to write. I unthinkingly used it in the word "work-around" ... That does not make it a letter. It just makes it a symbol used during writing. Letters are what make up the

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
All the Filipino languages I came across when I was living there consistently used a Spanish-derived orthography, and I don't remember any of them treating "-" as a letter. Of course, I didn't deal with the huge majority of the little tribal languages out there! On 9/29/2010 2:28 PM, Robert Hunt

Re: [sword-devel] Solved for me - was : osis2mod bug

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Peter von Kaehne wrote: osis2mod.exe running in Windows XP can cause Windows Error Reports to be generated, that Windows wants to send to Microsoft. ... I think this is standard MS Windows response and beyond the control of anyone. I think this is incorrect. I can disable such error repor

[sword-devel] Ubuntu BibleTime 2.5 packages (was: BibleTime 2.5 released )

2009-12-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Martin Gruner wrote: > the BibleTime team is proud to announce the release of BibleTime 2.5 > (Christmas edition). Congratulations! > @Packagers: It would be great if new packages for the 2.5 release could be > created and published before Christmas. BibleTime 2.5 packages for Ubuntu Hardy, I

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire module repositories feature request.

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Nic Carter wrote: > Or do we just suggest that the various front-ends implement the new > SWORD API features for determining updated modules? The issue with > this, for me (for PocketSword) is that the user has to manually > "refresh" the repos ... Then logically, you should now write an enhanc

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.1

2009-12-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: I've not tested this except under Linux, and that only very briefly, but doesn't adding a similar call to AC_CHECK_LIB outside the case...esac solve this, by making sure the check is always made (and so can always be tested for) on any host platform? I'm probably missin

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.1

2009-12-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: It's the latest commit to svn. The problem is that AC_CHECK_LIBS is only conditionally called. I guess it should always be called, or something. I don't really understand it. I've not tested this except under Linux, and that only very briefly, but doesn't adding a simil

[sword-devel] crosswire.org SSL certificate expired today

2009-12-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Doing an svn update from crosswire.org over HTTPS got me a warning about the SSL cert being expired. It seems to have expired about 12 hours ago: Certificate information: - Hostname: www.crosswire.org - Valid: from Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:11:13 GMT until Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:11:13 GMT - Issuer:

[sword-devel] Filename and directory name completion (was: Re: Emptyvss shows whole Bible missing )

2009-12-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > Tip: Windows users should find the PowerToy Open Command Window Here a very > useful. ... > Saves a lot of typing of cd commands with long paths. Perhaps a simpler approach is enabling tab completion of filename and directory names. This needs no additional software. See

Re: [sword-devel] configure.ac defaults

2009-12-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > COLORED_ECHO([BUILD TESTS: $enable_tests]) > COLORED_ECHO([BUILD EXAMPLES: $enable_examples]) > COLORED_ECHO([BUILD UTILITIES: $enable_utilities]) If we're going for comprehensiveness, we could add COLORED_ECHO([CONF: $with_conf])

Re: [sword-devel] -O3 -g

2009-12-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Ok, I still don't think we've gotten to the bottom of this. ... I'll test on the crosswire.org server itself, and if I can get the errors to appear there, with my .bashrc renamed out of the way, hopefully that will that be sufficient :) > g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -Iincl

Re: [sword-devel] -O3 -g

2009-12-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> ./autogen.sh && ./usrinst.sh --disable-debug && make >> displays all the warnings, so the current SWORD build environment is >> actually turning *off* some warnings by default > I'm not sure I understand why you are seeing this behavior. You are > correct that the

Re: [sword-devel] -O3 -g

2009-12-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Yeah J, you're probably right. I suppose I might try to justify the > settings in usrinst.sh by saying that these are the normal settings for > "users" needing to build the library (usually developers). These are > the settings I use daily while I develop (no shared li

Re: [sword-devel] GCC warnings

2009-12-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > OK, glad we found that. I have a question though. There is a > significant performance gain for many features of SWORD when > debugging is turned off (which also turns -O3 on). When you build > packages for public consumption, don't you turn debugging off? I simply

Re: [sword-devel] GCC warnings

2009-12-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > Cross-compiled for Windows on Jaunty with gcc 4.4.2 with -Wall -Werror > and no problems (well, none related to those arguments). > Why would the build environment you set up be any different than stock Jaunty? Because debuild is apparently setting some compiler flags fo

[sword-devel] GCC warnings (was: Re: 1.6.1 outstanding items? )

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Deji Akingunola wrote: >> g++ | 4:4.3.3-1ubuntu1 |jaunty | amd64, i386 >> g++ | 4:4.4.1-1ubuntu2 |karmic | amd64, i386 > Those are actually 4.3.3 and 4.4.1 which are older than Fedora's > 4.4.2. There is no gcc-4.4.3 yet. Thanks. I somehow read the colons as periods.

[sword-devel] Mingw and SWORD's internal regex (was: Re: 1.6.1 outstanding items? )

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: Hey Troy, Could you explain what you did with need_local_regex and mingw? Heh. I think that was actually me, or at least partly me :) Troy recently went through the patches I use for my SWORD packages (thanks!) and basically cherry-picked everything he liked the loo

Re: [sword-devel] 1.6.1 outstanding items?

2009-12-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: All warnings which cause -Werror to break (for the systems I've tried) are removed and some reported by others which I do not see are also fixed. There are still some warning patches I have not applied, as I do not see any problems on my end with a new F12 g++ 4.4.2 too

Re: [sword-devel] JIRA bugs project for common utilities?

2009-11-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > When I Browse Projects using > http://www.crosswire.org/bugs/secure/BrowseProjects.jspa > there is no obvious place to report bugs in Sword utilities such as MOD2IMP > and EMPTYVSS. > Am I missing the obvious, or should someone create a bugs tracker for the > common Sword u

Re: [sword-devel] List of verse ranges (and avoiding svn)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Greg Hellings wrote: > If I'm looking in the right place, then parsing the files would > require at least a rudimentary parsing of the C struct syntax that > contains the data. It looks pretty straightforward, and I could do > it, if I knew where to drop the data afterward. Unless it is computat

Re: [sword-devel] List of verse ranges (and avoiding svn)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Greg Hellings wrote: > Since this information is likely to be very useful for module > developers, it seems to be a perfect fit for a Wiki page. OK. My sense has been that module developers have often been required to use SWORD svn code anyway, because lack of regression testing of the module cr

Re: [sword-devel] List of verse ranges (and avoiding svn)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
johndu...@cgcf.net wrote: > I don't have the 'source' code installed as I'm only keen on > producing a module, and there was nothing in the module documentation > webpage that suggested that I should consider this. Most of those pages were created before alternative versification was a reality i

[sword-devel] List of verse ranges (was: Re: osis2mod - problem with Greek Esther )

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
johndu...@cgcf.net wrote: > It would be helpful if there was a listing of chapter/verse ranges > for the different v11ns, as used by Sword. But if Esther is > clarified and works, I don't think that I'll need it now. Did you read the source? All that info is there, in include/canon*.h -- for kj

[sword-devel] BibleTime 2.4 Ubuntu packages released (in PPA) (was: BibleTime 2.4 released)

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Martin Gruner wrote: it is our great pleasure to announce the availability of BibleTime 2.4. I just uploaded Ubuntu-packaged versions of this release of BibleTime to the Crosswire Packaging team PPA for Ubuntu Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, Karmic and Lucid. https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+a

Re: [sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Marsden wrote: > This would seem to suggest that the Xiphos 3.1.1a -supplied version of > osis2mod, which says it is r2169, is really r2400 (1.6.0) or later, in > disguise? It doesn't appear to have the -d option or the -v option ... It *does* have -v, my mistake. But

[sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > The binaries of SWORD itself (including the utilities) are already > available and have been available since very soon after the release > of 1.6.0, both from Crosswire and packaged with Xiphos. This would seem to suggest that the Xiphos 3.1.1a -supplied version of osis2m

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as "poor cousins"?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Morgan wrote (after quoting my entire lengthy message): > In my opinon, the expected compiler to be used for Windows binaries is > VC++, whether it is proprietary or not (for example, ask Mozilla, or > OpenOffice, or Python). Expected by whom? Microsoft does not provide a compiler and l

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as "poor cousins"?

2009-10-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
OK, I'll bite. Let's run with this discussion a bit... Greg Hellings wrote: > Most Linux or FreeBSD users are familiar with a source tree compile > with autotools. Really? In 2009? Do you have a source or at least some anecdotes to back up that idea? If you are correct, why was it valuable t

[sword-devel] Windows users as "poor cousins"? (was: Help wanted on non-canonical text )

2009-10-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: I think those of us who are Windows users are regarded as "poor cousins" by some CrossWire programmers. :confused: I think you may have that somewhat backwards. CrossWire itself makes its source code available for download to everyone with Internet access, Linux and Wind

Re: [sword-devel] maps

2009-09-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
mmital wrote: > http://www.biblemapper.com/ > According to this website (http://biblemapper.pbworks.com/), BibleMapper > "allows for the creation of copyright-free maps". If that statement is true, > I am wondering if anyone would be interested in a project to create maps and > make a module for

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.6.1

2009-09-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > buffer limits re: clucene > some warnings we could bypass > Are there other minor things I'm forgetting which we've talked about > adding into the code, or anything else which people really feel is > necessary before a 1.6.1 release? We're currently carrying the follow

Re: [sword-devel] Monitoring the sources for our modules?

2009-09-07 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > I am impressed, even though the line is somewhat obscure to the uninitiated. > I suppose it would be "icing on the cake" to have the output sorted? ;>} No problem. Just add |sort to the end of the line :) > We should do the same for those in the beta repo. > The checking

Re: [sword-devel] Monitoring the sources for our modules?

2009-09-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html Xenu's Linksleuth , but first > someone would have to generate a single page containing a table listing > every module in one column, and the "supplier" URL (from the conf files) in > another. Here's an improved version. Not exactly

Re: [sword-devel] Monitoring the sources for our modules?

2009-09-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > Has anyone given any thought to the ongoing monitoring of where we get the > text (& graphics) for our modules from? > ..., but first > someone would have to generate a single page containing a table listing > every module in one column, and the "supplier" URL (from the conf

Re: [sword-devel] swlocale question

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: That is, if we have 5 applications, and each has a 1-line way of doing this, then that's less code than trying to do this ourselves. So... how does diatheke do it in one line? :) (2) Rather than only looking at LANG, ... Currently, SWORD doesn't try to read any envi

Re: [sword-devel] swlocale question

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > This code could, and probably should, be incorporated into the engine. > It deals nicely with locales presented in the typical *nix way. For > Windows, you would have to convert the locale into a *nix style > format. We're using a glib-provided function for that already. I

Re: [sword-devel] More installmgr woes... (need for export SWORD_PATH=~/.sword )

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: So Xiphos now prompts for root privs when needed, so it can write shared modules to /usr/share/sword/ ? Nice, I'll have to try it out! No, it only tests to see if the user has permissions to install there. If they do, then it is offered as an option. If not, it is not s

Re: [sword-devel] More installmgr woes... (need for export SWORD_PATH=~/.sword )

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: My point wasn't about localization really, just wanted to point out that SWORD_PATH is more far-reaching than simply a way to change where modules get installed. OK, but if you only ever use SWORD_PATH in a script that calls installmgr, then that is the only effect it h

Re: [sword-devel] Making Bible DVDs from OSIS source text

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: Our friend John Austin has developed software to make a Bible DVD from OSIS source text. I have been sent an early demo sample (containing only the text of 2 John, n a Cyrillic scripted language) which can be viewed using Windows Media Player (also worked on Power DVD and

Re: [sword-devel] cross-compile sword Linux -> Windows

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: Suggest add a new section to the new wiki page. http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD Tutorial:Compiling & Installing SWORD I think a new page may be more appropriate, since there is all kinds of setup info for mingw and the various preequ

Re: [sword-devel] More installmgr woes... (need for export SWORD_PATH=~/.sword )

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: Note that setting SWORD_PATH is *not* the correct way to install into ~/.sword (there isn't a correct way with installmgr, I guess). SWORD_PATH does more things than just that, for instance, locales are loaded from SWORD_PATH/locales.d, ... I don't think installmgr is

Re: [sword-devel] More installmgr woes... (need for export SWORD_PATH=~/.sword )

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: One more thing. If the last step in building sword is "make config", then there is no reason to set SWORD_PATH at all. (even if it isn't the last step, there's no reason to, I think). SWORD will automatically look in ~/.sword and whatever paths are set in /etc/sword.con

Re: [sword-devel] SSO for crosswire

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > Even without SSO, Firefox users could adopt automatic login for all > these services, and just maintain a strong master password on > Firefox. Shell access? SVN access? These, at least, are not likely to be done from Firefox :) And the point is more that the user should n

Re: [sword-devel] SSO for crosswire

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
DM Smith wrote: > On Sep 3, 2009, at 3:51 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: >>> SVN access >> I doubt SVN has an independent set of users and passwords? If it uses >> normal unix users and getpwent() and friends, then PAM hooked to LDAP >> will work fine. > Thi

[sword-devel] SSO for crosswire (was: Re: A simple Fedora SWORD compile/install script )

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Peter von Kaehne wrote: > We introduced this 4 day gap as a way to reduce the Wikispam we got. Yes, that makes sense. But the machine has "known" me for longer than 4 days already... > Single sign on was discussed ... But I am sure, Troy will be > delighted to hear to your suggestions how to so

Re: [sword-devel] A simple Fedora SWORD compile/install script

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Marsden just wrote: > Jonathan Marsden asked: >>> Is it worth putting some basic info on how to download and >>> compile/install SWORD from source on various Linux distributions on the >>> wiki? > Peter von Kaehne replied: > > OK then. ...

Re: [sword-devel] A simple Fedora SWORD compile/install script

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Marsden asked: >> Is it worth putting some basic info on how to download and >> compile/install SWORD from source on various Linux distributions on the >> wiki? Peter von Kaehne replied: OK then. I can't create new pages on the Crosswire wiki (need to wait f

[sword-devel] A simple Fedora SWORD compile/install script

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Marsden wrote: > FWIW, I'm installing a Fedora 11 VM right now, doing a minimal install > with no optional package sets selected, and I'll go through what I need > to do to reach the point where I can compile and install SWORD, and > document the result. A tr

Re: [sword-devel] More installmgr woes...

2009-09-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Greg Hellings wrote: > You may not be thinking of me in particular, but I have brought that > up before. I thought about the SWORD_PATH issue after I ran > diatheke the first time, and it failed. So I set SWORD_PATH, and > tried running installmgr again, and it continued the fail with the > same

Re: [sword-devel] autotools help (needs zlib-devel RPM package)

2009-09-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > Your message got posted. Yes. I retried after posting it here, while I had the content in my paste buffer... and the forums were back from being "down for maintenance" -- pretty quick maintenance, it must have been :) > I'm guessing he doesn't have sudo. OK. It is ins

Re: [sword-devel] autotools help (needs zlib-devel RPM package)

2009-09-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: There is someone on the forum asking for help with compiling sword. ... Could someone who understands autotools look at this and give some advice? The thread is here http://www.crosswire.org/forums/mvnforum/viewthread_thread,725 The forums seem to have gone down while

Re: [sword-devel] FFe application for sword being considered, and patches split out

2009-08-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > However, I recommend that you switch to using the SimpleAnalyzer > rather than StandardAnalyzer. All that's needed it to replace > occurrences of standard::StandardAnalyzer to SimpleAnalyzer (no > namespace needed), and remove all references to stop_words. Based on > my ex

Re: [sword-devel] FFe application for sword being considered, and patches split out

2009-08-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
DM Smith wrote: For a fix that doesn't break backward compatibility. How about getting the stopword list from the analyzer and checking the query for those words. If any are found then gracefully fail the query, or merely delete them and potentially create a bad query, or ... That prevents the

Re: [sword-devel] FFe application for sword being considered, and patches split out

2009-08-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: I may package 0.9.23 for Windows, but the linux distros aren't going to move to 0.9.23 until it's regarded as stable. Indeed. As confirmation: rmadison -s karmic libclucene-dev outputs libclucene-dev | 0.9.20-3 |karmic | amd64, i386 So that is what will

Re: [sword-devel] FFe application for sword being considered, and patches split out

2009-08-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Quick note: I remember scanning the patch originally sent seeing a > 'new' without an obvious delete. Please be sure to check for this. > I may be wrong; it was a quick observation. You could well be right, the stopwords patch http://crosswire.org/~jmarsden/17_no_st

[sword-devel] FFe application for sword being considered, and patches split out

2009-08-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I have split out three specific patches from Matthew's single larger patch, and tested what happens when I incorporate them in our sword packages. They all test out fine for me. Each one fixes a clearly present bug in the current packaged code. The three patch files are available for download at

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (minor search.cpp patch)

2009-08-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I proposed a patch permitting: >> SEARCH_TYPE=-4 ./search KJV "swift hear slow speak" Matthew Talbert responded: > Wouldn't it be more consistent with the other utilities to have it as > an argument rather than using the environment variable? I've nothing > against it myself, but perhaps it wou

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (and sword 1.6.0+dfsg-2)

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > Yes, the idea was more to just show what changes might be needed and > get some feedback. It wasn't intended to be a patch (or patches) to > apply directly to trunk. OK. In case anyone has any use for it, my minimalist larger-search-buffer patch, extracted from your larg

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (and sword 1.6.0+dfsg-2)

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > OK, here are results. All tests are done with my previous changes; the > only difference is the first index has stop words, the second doesn't. > KJV 7.3MB 6.3MB > Finney 654KB 518KB > ESV 5.9MB 5.0MB So roughly 20% extra. I see no reason not to go for it -- but then, I

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (stopwords)

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > Two things: if we don't include them in the index, but only prevent > searching for them, then it wouldn't break compatibility. Well, I think searching for "God is" would then presumably return all hits on "God", which would be in some ways about as incorrect as the earli

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (minor search.cpp patch)

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > If this gets fixed, I think searching and results should be added to > the test suite. It would be simple to add; just run mkfastmod, then > the search program (it would be nice to be able to change the search > type without re-compiling so that different search types coul

Re: [sword-devel] indexed search discrepancy (and sword 1.6.0+dfsg-2)

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: > I'm attaching a patch to fix several issues with indexed search. Cool! I hope they make it into SWORD. IANASD (I am not a SWORD developer!), but, it is usually easier on the person checking and commiting changes from patches if the solution to issue, or each additional

Re: [sword-devel] Printing an encrypted module?

2009-08-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > ... Since printer drivers abound that can print to PDF or other > electronic formats, the whole text of a locked module could therefore > be output to a PDF file, with no security properties preventing > further copying. I think it's much easier than that, there should be no

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435

2009-08-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Tim Chase wrote: > Using the windows versions of the tool osis2mod I have run tests > making four types of modules(raw, raw + cipher, zipped, zipped + > cipher). In both cases that the -c switch was used ( -c > abcd1234efgh5678) while the osis2mod program output indicated that > the cipher key ph

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435

2009-08-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Ben Morgan wrote: > I didn't have USBINARY defined, so encyphering wasn't doing anything x-( > Once I do, zipped modules seem to work as expected. Raw ones don't. Makes sense to me -- all my tests so far were with the -z flag because all the "real" modules I've seen have been compressed modules.

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435

2009-08-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Ben Morgan wrote: Then there is the question of why Jonathan has it working... Are you sure cipherraw hasn't been near the module? What is cipherraw? If it is another SWORD utility, then, yes, I'm sure. See below. Only osis2mod (well, and zip and unzip, and diatheke to read a verse, onc

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435

2009-08-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Chris Little wrote: > Actually, I'm pretty well dumbfounded now. > > I can't get the cipher to work anywhere that I've tried. ... > I'm not sure how Jonathan is getting a positive result. I don't believe > any significant changes to the cipher stuff were made between 2400 and > head of osis2mod.

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Tim Chase wrote: > Peter picked off my post to the module making forum. Here are the > steps that I went through for module creation on the windows platform > where the osis2mod with cipher key does not produce an encrypted > module. Running on windows.. Thanks for the detailed info. I'm not u

Re: [sword-devel] svn r2447 fixes - why was include/config.h changed?

2009-08-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Chris Little wrote: > The last change to includes/config.h was r2410, Troy's final 1.6.0 > commit. You might need to check out a fresh copy. Hmmm. You're right... something odd must have happened there. I'm sure I did and svn update and then snv -r 2446 diff showed changes in includes/config.h .

[sword-devel] svn r2447 fixes - why was include/config.h changed?

2009-08-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Chris, Thanks for fixing the build problems of r2444 to r2446. I was about to post a patch myself :) Your fix (svn r2247) also changes includes/config.h and I am not sure why that was done -- can you explain? The commit message doesn't seem to give me any clues. Maybe just a different autoconf

Re: [sword-devel] using encryption with current osis2mod (r2435 works for me)

2009-08-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
#!/bin/bash # make-kjvfull.sh -- Creates SWORD module (.zip file) from kjvfull.xml # Any supplied parameters are passed as options to osis2mod # Uses $MODULENAME for the modfule name, if it exists, # or creates a unique name if not. # # Author: Jonathan Mars

Re: [sword-devel] Bibledit Sword module generation?

2009-08-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > Is there any hope of getting Bibledit's Sword module generator working > with Sword well enough that it actually works in the near future? Yes, there is hope :) > I just tried it, again, and failed to get something that actually works > in Xiphos. (1) SAMPLE

Re: [sword-devel] Distributing modules with SWORD frontends

2009-08-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Ian Wagner wrote: > Hey, I have been asked on several occasions if it would be possible for > me to bundle a Bible or 2 with the App Store release of PocketSword. I > am aware that this is not allowed for many modules since the license to > distribute (or whatever they call it) was granted only to

Re: [sword-devel] Often-requested yet never-available Bibles

2009-07-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Morgan wrote: >> On May 10th, 2007, he reported having got a reply to the effect that >> "the NIV costs US$10,000 to license and then US$10 per copy. There is also a >> rather detailed approval process." ... > I remember the discussion, and I believe the terms were exactly the > same. No

Re: [sword-devel] Bisaya-Inunhan New Testament (Philippines)

2009-07-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Mike Hart wrote: > I'll try to get it from msword to VPL. If you are concerned about > paragraph formatting, WOC, etc. and someone with more experience > volunteers, go with them. I would be stripping everything but scripture, > chapter headings, and verse numbers. (i.e. no footnotes, etc.) Thank

[sword-devel] Web-based translation tools (was: Re: Sharing was Re: Welsh Bible from beibl.net )

2009-07-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Chris Little wrote: > I think it would be great (and a nice project for any of you more > inclined to working on web apps) if we could do the same and extend it > to cover the localizable Sword & front end strings. Think bigger :) Think of an existing open source web app that does this kind of t

[sword-devel] SWORD packages in Ubuntu (was: Re: osis2mod segfault )

2009-07-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Manfred Bergmann wrote: > btw: why are only the old binaries of SWORD 1.5.9 available as package > on Ubuntu? We (The CrossWire Packaging Team) missed the Feature Freeze deadline for getting SWORD 1.5.11 packages into Jaunty. Running the command rmadison sword will show you which version of

Re: [sword-devel] InstallMgr ftp difficulty

2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Trying to refresh from ftp.bible.org fails; it happens to hang Xiphos > forever. Trying a command line ftp program, I can get logged in, but > any commands are rejected with "500 I won't open a connection to > 10.0.2.15 (only to 71.206.198.112)", the latter of which is my

Re: [sword-devel] locked modules and osis2mod (and utility tests)

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
DM Smith wrote: It appears that the -c flag is broken. It used to work. As we don't do many locked modules, I can't say when it was last used successfully. Sounds like one more utility test that could be added to the utility test suite? BTW, how is progress on the idea of a test suite for th

[sword-devel] Pilcrows and whitespace (was: Re: KJV Beta issue )

2009-06-14 Thread Jonathan Marsden
David Haslam wrote: > I later observed that BibleDesktop does display a space after each pilcrow. > It may therefore be an issue for BPBible rather than KJV source text. More datapoints: On Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04: (1) Using SWORD 1.6.0+dfsg-1 and BibleTime 2.0-1 packages, I see the pilcrows just fi

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