Sword (I use it with BibleTime) is a great project, but one thing that
I miss badly is cross references in the style of many printed editions
(or am I missing something?).
Cross references, I think, should be implemented as a separate module,
independently of any particular Bible version/translati
How should crossreferences be included?
The text I have has a separate x-ref document which I will merge in one
way or another with the actual text.
There are no markers right now in the text, but words are marked up as
"keywords" and in the x-ref file these words are quoted again.
The obvious s
"The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge" is a cross-reference module.
by grace alone,
Don A. Elbourne Jr.
http://elbourne.org
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From: "Justus Piater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:42
Hi.
Isn't there a source for bible cross-references which can be used to
build a module (dictionary/commentary) from?
Having such a module would be good, it could be used by front-ends for
any bible module.
Manfred
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On 1/12/2010 1:43 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
How should crossreferences be included?
The text I have has a separate x-ref document which I will merge in one
way or another with the actual text.
I've seen these a few times before in SFM document sets.
There are
Has anyone ever come across in the public domain a digital data source of cross
references linking the Apocrypha with the Old and New Testaments? Ideally in
ASCII format. Something like…
Mat 6:7,Sirach 7:14
Mat 27:43,Wisdom 2:15-16
Luke 6:31,Tobit 4:15
Luke 14:13,Tobit 4:7
TIA
Phil
Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Isn't there a source for bible cross-references which can be used to
> build a module (dictionary/commentary) from?
> Having such a module would be good, it could be used by front-ends for
> any bible module.
As a commentary, there is TSK, Treasur
Am 22.06.2008 um 17:52 schrieb Karl Kleinpaste:
> Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Isn't there a source for bible cross-references which can be used to
>> build a module (dictionary/commentary) from?
>> Having such a module would be good, it could be used by front-ends
>> for
>>
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> I had a quick look at the TSK module but I'm not sure if it can do
> what would like to have it for.
>
> The data should look like this:
> :
>
I wonder why TSK could not be suitable for you needs. It is a commentary
module so it has a list of referen
Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> I would like to have a subview somewhere in the bible view that shows
> the cross-references of the verses that are currently displayed. When
> the bible view is scrolled, the cross-reference view is synched in
> scrolling so that one can always see cross-references
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
> The data should look like this:
> :
>
I thought that was what you were asking for. At BibleTech 2008, there
was a talk on generating cross-references. I can't find my handout of
it, nor my notes. :(
Going memory, the "simple" way is:
Am 22.06.2008 um 22:12 schrieb Eeli Kaikkonen:
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> I had a quick look at the TSK module but I'm not sure if it can do
>> what would like to have it for.
>>
>> The data should look like this:
>> :
>>
>
> I wonder why TSK could not be suitable for you
Thanks you for that information.
Maybe I will do something myself as my first sword module. :)
Manfred
Am 22.06.2008 um 23:28 schrieb jonathon:
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>
>> The data should look like this:
>> :
>>
>
> I thought that was what you were asking f
jhphx wrote:
>
> Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>> I would like to have a subview somewhere in the bible view that shows
>> the cross-references of the verses that are currently displayed. When
>> the bible view is scrolled, the cross-reference view is synched in
>> scrolling so that one can alwa
Manfred,
You can get all the xrefs from an entry by grabbing the note type xref
entry attributes. Have a look at sword/examples/cmdline/lookup.cpp Run
it on the ESV like this:
./lookup ESV jn1.1
it dynamically iterates the entry attributes. You'll see how the xrefs
are stored. Once you kno
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>
> Manfred,
>
> You can get all the xrefs from an entry by grabbing the note type xref
> entry attributes. Have a look at sword/examples/cmdline/lookup.cpp Run
> it on the ESV like this:
>
> ./lookup ESV jn1.1
>
> it dynamically iterates the entry attributes. You
Dear Manfred,
Try adding this line to the tsk.conf file:
LocalOptionFilter=ThMLScripref
asrael wrote:
>
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>> Manfred,
>>
>> You can get all the xrefs from an entry by grabbing the note type xref
>> entry attributes. Have a look at sword/examples/cmdline/lookup.cpp
Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>
> Dear Manfred,
>
> Try adding this line to the tsk.conf file:
>
> LocalOptionFilter=ThMLScripref
>
>
Ok. That changed something. :)
The output for "Gen 1:1" with "lookup" tool then is like this (see below).
There are still no crossReference type tags but the refs
asrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> the refs in body tag are the cross-references which I can use.
I don't know how anyone else feels about it, but if some tool simply
dumped umpty-dozen context-free verse references at me, particularly if
they include obscure references to Ecclesiastes, Nahum, a
asrael wrote:
> How would you strip out the comments?
I think Troy has answered this better than I could. I suppose one could
do this and also go the new module route. If this feature is implemented
in front ends it may be nice to have modules that complement it, but you
could use it on any mod
On 6/24/08, asrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMO cross-references not necessarily need to be encoded in the bible module
> itself. It doesn't help me if some have cross-references and some don't. For
> bible study I need cross-refs everywhere for every module no matter which
> language and for w
Am 23.06.2008 um 22:09 schrieb Karl Kleinpaste:
> asrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> the refs in body tag are the cross-references which I can use.
>
> I don't know how anyone else feels about it, but if some tool simply
> dumped umpty-dozen context-free verse references at me, particularly
Am 24.06.2008 um 03:44 schrieb Jonathan Morgan:
> On 6/24/08, asrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> IMO cross-references not necessarily need to be encoded in the
>> bible module
>> itself. It doesn't help me if some have cross-references and some
>> don't. For
>> bible study I need cross-refs
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 24.06.2008 um 03:44 schrieb Jonathan Morgan:
>
>> On 6/24/08, asrael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> IMO cross-references not necessarily need to be encoded in the
>>> bible module
>>> itself. It doesn't help me if s
On Jun 22, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Manfred Bergmann wrote:
>
> Am 22.06.2008 um 17:52 schrieb Karl Kleinpaste:
>
>> Manfred Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Isn't there a source for bible cross-references which can be used to
>>> build a module (dictionary/commentary) from?
>>> Having such a mo
I switched to sword 1.9 rc3 in BibleTime. I am on Fedora 33. Now I have
lost cross references, footnotes, Jesus words, etc.
Did any api for references change? Any other thoughts?
Gary Holmlund
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Hi all!
I'm preparing a new german book (Pfadfinder zur Bibel, www.ro-ho.de), which is
a collection of many bible cross references topically sorted. But the books
links also to other sections in the sections.
AFAIK there's no possibility in ThML to make such a link. I hope I'm wrong.
How can I
The cross-references in the ESV psalms headings are missing (they appear in
a print version). For example, in Psalm 52's title. Can this be easily
fixed? (other footnotes appear). These x-refs are some of the more important
ones (as they link back to the main story the psalm is based on), so it
wou
I had a question about dealing with scripture cross-references when
displaying RTF text. When using RTF format to display the DBD devotional,
the output is valid RTF but contains < a href= ""> and < /a> tags. So far I
have been using the text between the href tags as:
// parse th
Hi Gary. No, nothing should have changed in that respect. Can anyone else
confirm they are having trouble with these in our last RC or svn HEAD?
On October 16, 2020 2:44:32 AM GMT+02:00, Gary Holmlund
wrote:
>I switched to sword 1.9 rc3 in BibleTime. I am on Fedora 33. Now I have
>
>lost cross
On 10/16/20 6:49 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> Can anyone else confirm they are having trouble with these in our last
> RC or svn HEAD?
svn up to -r3812, rebuilt sword and xiphos. Seems fine. Notes, xrefs,
red words all functional.
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I have found that sword is not calling the BibleTime OsisToHtml filter.
It is called with 1.8.1 and not with 1.9RC3. I am still working on why
this does not happen.
Gary
On 10/16/20 3:49 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
Hi Gary. No, nothing should have changed in that respect. Can anyone
else co
I found the issue. BibleTime is using a sword function,
AddRenderFilters, which is deprecated. It was renamed to
addRenderFilters (A -> a).
Gary
On 10/17/20 1:36 PM, Gary Holmlund wrote:
I have found that sword is not calling the BibleTime OsisToHtml
filter. It is called with 1.8.1 and not wi
Dear Gary,
So glad you figured out the problem. I am sorry I wasn't much help. Please let
me know if you find any other issues.
Happy Sunday!
Troy
On October 18, 2020 12:50:20 AM GMT+02:00, Gary Holmlund
wrote:
>I found the issue. BibleTime is using a sword function,
>AddRenderFilters, which
Hi!
The respective change in Sword is SVN 3753:
https://github.com/bibletime/crosswire-sword-mirror/commit/b684b6f099
It seems that this time we were not lucky to have a SWDEPRECATED alias
for the old function name, silently breaking API, and hence BibleTime.
In theory this silent error co
Hi Jaak,
Glad we found the issue during the RC stage. Yes, finishing the camelCase
refactoring work for the 2.0 release was a large part of this release. We
should have probably added a SWDEPRECATED flag to the method and left it, but
for virtuals, this gets a bit tricky. For us to continue to
Gary, are you sure that the compiler did not error or at least warn you
about this? Because strangely enough, in BibleTime, the overridden
CSwordBackend::AddRenderFilter method already seems to have the override
keyword present.
I suspect what you saw might instead have been caused by somethin
Jaak,
I did not get an error about this. The capitalized version of this
function does exist in sword, so override would not help. It looks like
it is implemented reasonably, but it did not work for me.
I am quite confident that I was not mixing versions of sword.
Gary
On 10/18/20 1:07 PM,
> I'm preparing a new german book (Pfadfinder zur Bibel, www.ro-ho.de), which is
> a collection of many bible cross references topically sorted. But the books
> links also to other sections in the sections.
>
> AFAIK there's no possibility in ThML to make such a link. I hope I'm wrong.
> How c
Thanks for the information, Chris. However, I guess that we may want to
release BibleTime 1.3 first before we move to OSIS which may introduce new
bugs into our code. After that, and as the work on the *->OSIS filters
progresses, we will certainly use OSIS in BibleTime, though the module could
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