Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-27 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-12-24, 08:44 GMT, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > The following is an adaption for the new more or less > automatic process > which I now use for publication of modules on the CrossWire site. So, I wonder whether somebody finally pushes to the repository my update of CzeBKR with conf file on

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-27 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Will do. Probably tonight On Sun, 2015-12-27 at 11:43 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: > On 2015-12-24, 08:44 GMT, Peter von Kaehne wrote: > > The following is an adaption for the new more or less > > automatic process > > which I now use for publication of modules on the CrossWire site. > > So, I

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Greg Hellings
If CrossWire is eligible for the same type of free license on Stash and Bamboo that we receive for JIRA, I can help automate this process into requiring only a commit to a Stash repository which automatically initiates the build and deploy of modules. Some nice integration points exist between

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
As regards details, I've replied in an email direct to you. I didn't include any crap in the conf files. It conforms to what is described in the wiki page. Module makers should want to first satisfy themselves that the module works properly. That's why I included all the relevant lines in the

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Which parts are required and which are not should be documented in the wiki page. I still don't really understand why this has to be done. It's a huge change from how modules have always been submitted. If I find it confusing, I'm sure others with less experience will. David -- View this

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 08:20 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > Module makers should want to first satisfy themselves that the module > works > properly. > That's why I included all the relevant lines in the conf. There is nothing stopping you from creating your own conf file. This does not release you

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 09:24 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > If I find it confusing, I'm sure others with less experience will. It is not because I am able to tell simply send me a long and a short spiel about your module and advise me of the copyright situation. Which reflects the three minimum

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
Wow. A little grace would go a long way in this thread. I don't regard the idea of automatic conf file generation as fundamentally flawed. I recommend it, as long as it is done well. I do it all the time. I just start with a more complete set of

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread DM Smith
IMHO: The approach is not *fundamentally* flawed. Perhaps it should be advisory at this time. But there are certainly some elements that are purely mechanical and these can be automated. And should be. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) > On Dec 26, 2015, at 6:45 AM, David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
I understand the motivation behind it, which is to save time, by having a repeatable method that can be launched by a single click (as it were). But it's not saving time overall because it's being done so badly. It's wasting time for those of us who submitted good working modules! This causes a

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 07:16 -0800, David Haslam wrote: > > But it's not saving time overall because it's being done so badly. > Well it has saved my time - apart from answering your emails I have even cumulatively spend less time on this than on any publication prior, including republication

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Recent experience of how badly this works in practice has led me to the conclusion that the approach is fundamentally flawed. When an experienced module developer submits a module for release, it is unacceptable for his work to be altered by scripted changes to the conf file. This reflects badly

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread David Haslam
Michael writes, "Wow. A little grace would go a long way in this thread." Admittedly, I've expressed some things rather strongly. That's simply because until earlier this evening, I was the only one seeing the issue. The script-generated conf files I installed from the repo contained lines that

Re: [sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-26 Thread Nic Carter
I love good bug reports. They help fix issues. Details & how and why something is wrong will lead to correct fixes. (Well, mostly! It relies on having free time to implement the fixes, hey!) I love the idea of all of this being automated, but it relies on more work initially to refine to tools

[sword-devel] Submission of OSIS files for Bibles and Commentaries

2015-12-24 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear All, The following is an adaption for the new more or less automatic process which I now use for publication of modules on the CrossWire site. Please ensure that all OSIS files you submit have the correct osisIDWork, osisWork and xml:lang entries in the OSIS header. This is important.