Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread DM Smith
On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Do versifications sometimes have different verse orders to each other. > > Is this something Sword copes with/is intending to cater for? > > My aim is to be able to do a text comparison verse for verse, and so assuming > I have the m

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread DM Smith
As noted by Troy, this is not an issue once the mapping facility is baked into SWORD. It will cope with books having different ordering of keys. When showing parallel content, one translation is picked as the master. Those verses are shown in order. Corresponding verses from the other translatio

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
SWORD does not support out-of-numerical-order v11n systems, e.g., one Bible might decide to number its verses 1,5,2,3,4,6,7. We do not plan to have a facility to support this. The argument has been made on threads-past which basically says: changing the logic of chapter/verse from integer log

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread David Haslam
And (for example) if you wish to query the whole of the JPS module using book names, it will not do to specify *Gen-Mal*. You'd need to remember that in the Tanakh, the last book is *II Chronicles*. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Versifications-and-verse

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On 4 Jul 2013, at 14:01, Chris Little wrote: > Book ordering differences are a trivial case, already handled by > versification system definitions. E.g. the German and Luther versification > systems differ, in the NT, only in book order. If you query Heb-Rev in > German, you'll get the content

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Little
Book ordering differences are a trivial case, already handled by versification system definitions. E.g. the German and Luther versification systems differ, in the NT, only in book order. If you query Heb-Rev in German, you'll get the contents of 9 books. In Luther, you would get only 4 books.

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi David Book order isn't such an issue because you don't tend to line up passages across book boundaries.But I guess that's an interesting question, since it would mean that Gen-Ex could mean different things in different versifications. Presumably we're never going to support book ordering being

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread David Haslam
Maybe the title should have included the phrase "book order". As is fairly well known, the book order for the Epistles is different in Eastern Canon than in the Western Canon. This is just one such peculiarity for the NT. There is also that odd move of some verses to a different chapter in Romans

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-04 Thread Chris Burrell
So, my understanding from all the previous emails, is No we don't cope for books with different orders of keys. However these do happen. Moreover, the more general case of content from 1 verse switched with the content of another is more prevalent. So it's quite feasible to have a system that maps

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Burrell
Response from Michael below. On 3 July 2013 21:25, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > On 07/03/2013 10:07 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: > > > > In your example about the Psalms, within the versification itself you > still have the verses in the same order, so that wouldn't be a problem. But > I thi

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Chris, > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Do versifications sometimes have different verse orders to each other. >> >> Is this something Sword copes with/is intending to cater for? >> > > My understanding

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Greg Hellings
Chris, On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Chris Burrell wrote: > Hi > > Do versifications sometimes have different verse orders to each other. > > Is this something Sword copes with/is intending to cater for? > My understanding is that no, we do not cater to books, chapters or verses being out of

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Burrell
> Hi Michael > > In your example about the Psalms, within the versification itself you > still have the verses in the same order, so that wouldn't be a problem. But > I think you're saying you might have the content of verse 1 and the content > of verse 2 swapped around... Is that right? Would the

Re: [sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 07/03/2013 09:54 AM, Chris Burrell wrote: Hi Do versifications sometimes have different verse orders to each other. Yes, unfortunately. Is this something Sword copes with/

[sword-devel] Versifications and verse order

2013-07-03 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Do versifications sometimes have different verse orders to each other. Is this something Sword copes with/is intending to cater for? My aim is to be able to do a text comparison verse for verse, and so assuming I have the mappings between each verse, can I take two lists and work my way down.