Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-07-15 Thread John Baima
Hi, I posted this about a month ago and I did not get a response. Is anyone using a recent version of Delphi as a Sword front end?? If you look in sword/bindings/cls/test2 (if you haven't yet done so) you should find good example code that uses these controls in an end user interface. I al

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-06-06 Thread John Baima
If you look in sword/bindings/cls/test2 (if you haven't yet done so) you should find good example code that uses these controls in an end user interface. I also think searching isn't exposed yet, but again, having the framework in place, it's just a matter of adding the desired methods. Pl

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-14 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Thanks very much, Costas - Original Message - From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... Costas, Not sure I quite got through with my email. I'

Re: JSword was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-14 Thread Joe Walker
Daniel Glassey wrote: I guess this needs advertised a bit better but there is already work going on on sword for java - JSword I agree. Troy, how about adding us to the crosswire homepage? Joe. ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://w

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-14 Thread Costas Stergiou
Message - From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... > Costas, > Not sure I quite got through with my email. I'll paste my earlier > reply b

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Costas, Not sure I quite got through with my email. I'll paste my earlier reply below and give a little background in case you're not sure. Kylix is basically Delphi for Linux. The latest release of Kylix includes C++ support, making it basically, C++Builder for Linux, as well. CLX is Borland

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Jason Turner
Why'd you have to go and say that??!!?? :) I've been looking at wxPython all day. I'm not convinced that it would be a good solution, because of requiring the windows user to install an additional 25 megs or so. However, for those of you that have not checked it out, it is really amazing. I'm

Re: GPL and .NET was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 06:39 pm, Daniel Glassey wrote: > On 12 Mar 2003 at 2:11, Daniel Russell sent forth the message: >> I have a technical question: can .NET and GPL be mixed > www.go-mono.org > plenty of GPL'd .NET there ;) For now. Microsoft have started patenting things. Cheers; Le

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Klaus R. H. Walther
Hello Am Donnerstag, 13. März 2003 09:20 schrieb Costas I. Stergiou: > I would certainly need some help here because my tries to compile the > lib have been in vain (this is not strange since I am not a C++ > developer). > When you say 'c++ module', what exactly do you mean? .obj files, .dll, > s

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Hi Simon, there is no special file format being used, just verse per line files and custom index files created on the fly upon startup. Actually, the bible texts are taken from Sword so it is possible to add any Bible text just by copying it to the app folder. I would like to integrate with sword

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-13 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
I would certainly need some help here because my tries to compile the lib have been in vain (this is not strange since I am not a C++ developer). When you say 'c++ module', what exactly do you mean? .obj files, .dll, something else? Costas B> > I have been working with Borland C++ Builder (BCB) fo

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 08:10 pm, Jason Turner wrote: > Dave, > > Thanks for your response. I've hashed through a lot of the > advantages/disadvantages on IRC with some of the other developers. I think > that a .NET version would be the fastest to develop, and Diatheke *is* a > viable solution.

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
If you end up doing something in C# let me > know. > > Peace, > > Dave. > > Never doubt that a group of thoughtfully, creative people can change the > world - Margaret Mead > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread David Mullens
ginal Message- > From: Jason Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... > > On this note, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Jason Turner. > I've > been

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Keith Ralston
*** Request timed out. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Klaus R. H. Walther > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... > > > Hello > >

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Simon
: woensdag 12 maart 2003 23:39 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... Hello Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2003 09:21 schrieb Costas I. Stergiou: > two days ago I posted a message on the list about how I could use the > sword api from delphi and some questions

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Simon
Simon -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Costas I. Stergiou Verzonden: woensdag 12 maart 2003 9:21 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question... Hi all again, two days ago I posted a message on the list about

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Klaus R. H. Walther
Hello Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2003 09:21 schrieb Costas I. Stergiou: > two days ago I posted a message on the list about how I could use > the sword api from delphi and some questions about BCC. > I see now that there is a conversation about a new UI for Sword and > I would like to add some comment

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Victor Porton
> conversation in this thread. You raise a good question about the > usefullness > of Diatheke. Hopefully someone can answer that. My main concern, and the Diatheke is useful even to have on a e.g. laptop. ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
do as we say in the Gloria in > Excelsis: ...We praise you, we call you holy, we worship you, we proclaim > your glory, we thank you for the greatness of your splendour." > J.R.R. Tolkien > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
I'm pretty sure that the .exe in question uses several DLL's that can be redistributed, I'm almost positive the Oracle's client installation uses Borland's JRE DLL implementation. I would say I am positive actually. On Wednesday 12 March 2003 08:15 am, Chris wrote: > Costas I. Stergiou wrote: >

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Have you tried to run this exe on a machine without a JRE? No, so maybe it is using the JRE behind the scenes. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .ex

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Have you tried to run this exe on a machine without a JRE? On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: > > Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I > asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .exe of about 70kb, that > didn't appear to require the JRE. How it works I don't

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .exe of about 70kb, that didn't appear to require the JRE. How it works I don't know, but it seems to work. There's also the option of Linux and Sun/Sparc native executeables. Cos

Re: GPL and .NET was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
Also the great project of SharpDevelop (gpl'd ide for .net written in .net) On Wednesday 12 March 2003 03:39 am, Daniel Glassey wrote: > www.go-mono.org > > plenty of GPL'd .NET there ;) > d > > On 12 Mar 2003 at 2:11, Daniel Russell sent forth the message: > > Jason Turner wrote: > > >Since I can

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Hi Chris, I don't think JBuilder can produce executables (native). Actually, no java app can be converted to an executable unless the executable contains the whole JRE within. I am also using JBuilder from version 2 and I would agree that it's interface is quite good but still lacks the native L&F.

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
I personally would sacrifice windows L&F for the cross-platform ability. Plus, JBuilder can produce native executables. I havn't tried benchmarking them, but I presume the JBuilder environment itself uses it, and it is very snappy. Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Actually, my full time job is java de

JSword was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Glassey
Guys, I guess this needs advertised a bit better but there is already work going on on sword for java - JSword http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/index.jsp See http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/devt.jsp if you would like to get involved Regards, Daniel On 12 Mar 2003 at 13:31, Costas I. Stergiou

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Actually, my full time job is java dev and it is really my favorite language for many reasons. Well, the reason I would not suggest java is because it is slow in the GUI, and does not provide a real windows look and feel. All the Java GUI programs I have used are indeed a bit slow and out of the wi

GPL and .NET was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Glassey
www.go-mono.org plenty of GPL'd .NET there ;) d On 12 Mar 2003 at 2:11, Daniel Russell sent forth the message: > Jason Turner wrote: > > >Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands, > >I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building > >the UI on top of that. Of c

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Some months ago I started on a software for personal use that would help in bible study. Since my best knowledge is in Java (5 years now) I started the implementation with it. Very soon I realized the (obvious) fact that Java is NOT for the Desktop. Why? My full time jo

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Russell
Jason Turner wrote: Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands, I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building the UI on top of that. Of course releasing the whole thing under the GPL. I have a technical question: can .NET and GPL be mixed Is'nt Microsoft bec

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Hi all again, two days ago I posted a message on the list about how I could use the sword api from delphi and some questions about BCC. I see now that there is a conversation about a new UI for Sword and I would like to add some comments on that (although this is only my second post on the list).

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-11 Thread Chris
Jason Turner wrote: Personally I'd rather see a Java version than .NET. So, to get to my point, I was considering writing a new UI in .NET. However, .NET cannot utilize native C++ libraries. It can use Managed C++, C#, ActiveX DLL's and native C libraries. Since I cannot use the Sword API as it

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-11 Thread N. Trevor Brierly
proclaim your glory, we thank you for the greatness of your splendour." J.R.R. Tolkien -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Turner Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Que

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-11 Thread Jason Turner
On this note, I would like to introduce myself. My name is Jason Turner. I've been following the Sword project off and on for a while now and just thought I would make the move to get involved. I have recently read "Revolution in World Missions" by K.P. Yohannan (Pres of Gospel For Asia) and hav

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-10 Thread David Trotz
No the windows version does not allow this. Certain versions of the bible will automatically break the paragraph into seperate lines per verse, but other than that the answer is no. Sorry. It may be added someday. David - Original Message - From: Christopher Frazier To: [E