RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)

2005-11-29 Thread Shyyunn Lin \(sheranl\)
Chris: I think having SD-ID with [enc="utf-8" lang="English"] may be a good approach. If different language use utf-8 encoding, then "lang=" can distinguish it. Also want to clarify that you suggest that if the message is in ASCII, it will not required SD-ID, but for all other encodings, SD-ID w

[Syslog] Syslog sign - draft 17 (draft-ietf-syslog-sign-17.txt)

2005-11-29 Thread Alexander Clemm \(alex\)
Hello, I just wanted to let you all know that I have submitted a new draft of syslog sign, as the old one was about to expire. The new draft should appear shortly if it hasn't already; here is a summary of the changes and updates that were made. The changes were along the lines of what was pre

[Syslog] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-syslog-sign-17.txt

2005-11-29 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Security Issues in Network Event Logging Working Group of the IETF. Title : Signed syslog Messages Author(s) : J. Kelsey, et al. Filename

RE: [Syslog] Consensus on Charter?

2005-11-29 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Darren, I am not long enough with the IETF to know how much trouble it is to recharter - but I think whatever it is, it is acceptable. You very correctly said that we need to do baby steps. And as a matter of past discussions, it seems to be necessary to explicitely exclude some things to get the

RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)

2005-11-29 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Chris, I think that is a good compromise. It would also enable us to convey the enconding information if we have it (anyhow, in that case it would be more smarter to convert to UTF-8, but that's not yet important). Rainer > -Original Message- > From: Chris Lonvick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Syslog] Consensus on Charter?

2005-11-29 Thread Darren Reed
Are we happy to recharter when these are done to cover TCP ? Darren ___ Syslog mailing list Syslog@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/syslog

Re: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)

2005-11-29 Thread Darren Reed
> Hi Rainer, > > Why don't we look at it from the other direction? We could state that any > encoding is acceptable - for ease-of-use/migration with existing syslog > implementations. It is RECOMMENDED that UTF-8 be used. When it is > used, an SD-ID element will be REQUIRED. e.g. - [enc="ut

RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Rainer, Why don't we look at it from the other direction? We could state that any encoding is acceptable - for ease-of-use/migration with existing syslog implementations. It is RECOMMENDED that UTF-8 be used. When it is used, an SD-ID element will be REQUIRED. e.g. - [enc="utf-8" lang="

Re: [Syslog] Consensus on Charter?

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Rainer, I've already sent my comments to Sam including the v2 of the charter. I'm still waiting on feedback from him. The proposed charter below looks good. Please do send your comments to him. As he said, it's good to send them to the WG list as well. Thanks, Chris On Tue, 29 Nov 2

[Syslog] Consensus on Charter?

2005-11-29 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Chris, WG: as you are probably aware, Sam's deadline for comments about the future of this WG is quickly approaching (it is December, 1st). I plan to formally update my comment. To do so, I would like to know if we have reached consensus on the charter. I have taken the liberty to merge some cha

RE: [Syslog] #5 - character encoding (was: Consensus?)

2005-11-29 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Chris & WG, > > #5 Character encoding in MSG: due to my proof-of-concept > > implementation, I have raised the (ugly) question if we need > > to allow encodings other than UTF-8. Please note that this > > question arises from needs introduced by e.g. POSIX. So we > > can't easily argue the

RE: [Syslog] #1 - RFC3164, was: Consensus?

2005-11-29 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Darren & WG: I have used this morning to compile a short list of currently existing and deployed syslogds. As I suggested, I have sent several messages to them. I suggest you have a look at the results at http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/existing-syslog.html I do not see much in that result backing