RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-17 Thread Chris Lonvick
." I guess I'll shift this discussion to INCITS/CS1. Thanks for the bandwidth. -Eric -Original Message- From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:07 AM To: Eric Hibbard Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsol

RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-17 Thread Eric Hibbard
-Original Message- From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:07 AM To: Eric Hibbard Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete? > As one of the many lurkers on this list, I have been monitoring this > WG'

Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-17 Thread Darren Reed
> As one of the many lurkers on this list, I have been monitoring this > WG's activities and I'm a bit concerned with the recent posts. I had > high hopes that some form of logging standardization might materialize, > but that now seems to be in question. That is outside the scope of this WG. We'

RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-16 Thread Eric Hibbard
As one of the many lurkers on this list, I have been monitoring this WG's activities and I'm a bit concerned with the recent posts. I had high hopes that some form of logging standardization might materialize, but that now seems to be in question.   Recent regulations within the U.S. (e.g.,

RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-16 Thread Rainer Gerhards
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete? > > Hi all, > > > If I get the essence in Darren's message right, > > what he is proposing is to create a layered architecture for syslog. > > Yes, by using what&#

Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-16 Thread Darren Reed
Hi all, > If I get the essence in Darren's message right, > what he is proposing is to create a layered architecture for syslog. Yes, by using what's gone before us as the way to start doing that. > Please face it: on the WG mailing list, we are pressing for ever and > ever change. More and more

RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-16 Thread Rainer Gerhards
11:55 PM > To: Chris Lonvick > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Charter revision > > Chris, > > What I'd like to see happen is for 3195 to be broken up into 2 or > more new RFCs, one (or more) which cover the protocol and one which >

Re: [Syslog] Charter revision

2005-11-15 Thread Sam Hartman
This proposal confuses me greatly. IT seems to be mixing message formats and over the wire protocol. ___ Syslog mailing list Syslog@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/syslog

Re: [Syslog] Charter revision

2005-11-15 Thread Darren Reed
Chris, What I'd like to see happen is for 3195 to be broken up into 2 or more new RFCs, one (or more) which cover the protocol and one which defines their use over BEEP. i.e. One which covers the COOKED profile, one which covers a RAW profile and one which covers one or both of these over BEEP. W

Re: [Syslog] Charter revision - why is there so a big difference between list concensus and meeting concensus?

2005-11-14 Thread Darren Reed
> Chris, > > We have been working 2+ years on syslog-protocol and > syslog-transport-udp. We had hard discussions. It looked we reached > concensus on the mailing list. Then, in the meeting, non-concensus was > found. It looks like we have a big discrepancy between what is said on > the mailing li

RE: [Syslog] Charter revision - why is there so a big difference between list concensus and meeting concensus?

2005-11-14 Thread Rainer Gerhards
2005 6:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Syslog] Charter revision > > Hi Folks, > > I'd like to start the discussion of revising our charter. We > will need to > address various parts of this. > > 1 - At the meeting, it was clear that many people thou

[Syslog] Charter revision

2005-11-14 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Folks, I'd like to start the discussion of revising our charter. We will need to address various parts of this. 1 - At the meeting, it was clear that many people thought that we should be building on the accepted syslog header. A) Should the WG accept that the observed syslog header