Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: People have been asking us to maintain a NEWS file for systemd. We have now added that: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/plain/NEWS I have included all news from the previous release v38 there, please have a look. [v39] * If a

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@medozas.de wrote: On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: [v39] * If a group adm exists, journal files are automatically  owned by them This sounds like it has the potential that journal files suddenly beomce writable by

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25. Januar 2012 12:00 schrieb Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@medozas.de wrote: On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: [v39] * If a group adm exists, journal files are automatically  owned by them This sounds like

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:59, Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com wrote: Am 25. Januar 2012 12:00 schrieb Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:11, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@medozas.de wrote: On Wednesday 2012-01-25 02:02, Lennart Poettering wrote: [v39] * If a group adm

Re: [systemd-devel] automount regression

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: I noticed a regression in the automount handling that I could not immediately figure out. I know for a fact that this used to work a long time ago, and that it does not work with v39, but I have not bisected further. It seems

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@medozas.de) wrote: [v39] * If a group adm exists, journal files are automatically owned by them This sounds like it has the potential that journal files suddenly beomce writable by a random user group that has existed previously. They are

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] logind: add sys_tty_config capability, to let it use VT_ACTIVATE ioctl on activate action

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
Good day, Problem is that systemd-loginctl activate session-id gives something like D-Bus call failed: Operation not permitted, while strace of logind process looks like this: epoll_wait(4, {{EPOLLIN, {u32=3, u64=3}}}, 1, -1) = 1 epoll_wait(9, {{EPOLLIN, {u32=166352544, u64=166352544}}}, 1, 0)

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
Good day, Another issue I've spotted with logind on my system. systemd-loginctl enable-linger goes to src/login/logind-dbus.c:1191, which seem to do: r = safe_mkdir(/var/lib/systemd/linger, 0755, 0, 0); ...and fails, producing something like D-Bus call failed: No such file or directory from

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/25/2012 03:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@medozas.de) wrote: I would actually prefer if it wrote that to the current tty that invoked the start action, rather than the console which is stowed away in a deep cellar... We explicitly want

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 16:33, Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: Good day, Another issue I've spotted with logind on my system. systemd-loginctl enable-linger goes to src/login/logind-dbus.c:1191, which seem to do:  r = safe_mkdir(/var/lib/systemd/linger, 0755, 0, 0); ...and

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: add creation of /var/lib/systemd path, used by logind

2012-01-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:43:35 +0100 Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 16:33, Mike Kazantsev mk.frag...@gmail.com wrote: ... Not sure if it has to be abstracted via localstatedir or something, but since it's hard-coded in logind anyway, I thought not to bother

Re: [systemd-devel] hwclock

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi David, On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM, David Thurgood d.r.thurg...@gmx.com wrote: I am hoping that this is an appropriate place for a feature request with respect to the program hwclock. hwclock is part of the util-linux package, so you'd probably have more luck emailing

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michal Schmidt (mschm...@redhat.com) said: On 01/25/2012 03:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 25.01.12 11:11, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@medozas.de) wrote: I would actually prefer if it wrote that to the current tty that invoked the start action, rather than the console which is stowed

Re: [systemd-devel] hwclock

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 14:49, David Thurgood (d.r.thurg...@gmx.com) wrote: Dear Sir, I am hoping that this is an appropriate place for a feature request with respect to the program hwclock. This relates to a very old problem, which as I remember goes back to the PC's of the 70's

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v39

2012-01-25 Thread Michal Schmidt
On 01/25/2012 05:34 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Michal Schmidt (mschm...@redhat.com) said: We could make systemctl start ... dump a few of the service's lines from the journal before exiting. At that point you're then trying to define heuristics about what the proper value for 'a few' is, and

[systemd-devel] BindTo not working as expected with .target ?

2012-01-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Hi all, I'm trying to get a .target working as a trigger one action then go back to not activated state and despite Lennart help on IRC, it keeps failing, so it might indicate a bug : foobar.target : [Unit] Description=my trigger target BindTo=myaction.service myaction.service: [Unit]

[systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
Heya, to be nice to those who are interested in maintaining a level of compatibility with the interfaces we have introduced with systemd without making use of systemd, I have put together this extensive (and hopefully comprehensive) table:

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread William Swanson
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by applications and 3rd party code. The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently adopted your /etc/locale.conf file, and could go in the Known Other

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 13:04, William Swanson (swanson...@gmail.com) wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by applications and 3rd party code. The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Wed, 25.01.12 13:04, William Swanson (swanson...@gmail.com) wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: Many of these APIs are already in heavy usage by

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 25.01.12 23:12, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote: The Arch Linux native initscripts just recently adopted your /etc/locale.conf file, and could go in the Known Other Implementations column for that. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale.conf Thanks! Added! For

Re: [systemd-devel] [HEADS-UP] Interface Portability And Stability Chart

2012-01-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Wed, 25.01.12 23:12, Tom Gundersen (t...@jklm.no) wrote: In addition to the initrd interfaces for fsck and shutdown (but they are not in the table). Well, they are included in the initrd interface item, the