Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v2] shell-completion: fix zsh completion installation

2013-07-25 Thread William Giokas
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 07:02:14PM -0500, William Giokas wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > I was told [1], the directory for 3rd party packages would be > > /usr/share/zsh/vendor-completions. But I'm not a zsh user, so I'm just > > paroting what I read ther

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH v2] shell-completion: fix zsh completion installation

2013-07-25 Thread William Giokas
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > I was told [1], the directory for 3rd party packages would be > /usr/share/zsh/vendor-completions. But I'm not a zsh user, so I'm just > paroting what I read there. Was there a zsh developer (not a Debian packager of zsh) that says t

Re: [systemd-devel] unused translations in git

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 26.07.13 00:44, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2013/7/25 Lennart Poettering : > > On Mon, 22.07.13 05:51, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> so it seems to me, we use gettext to translate the PolicyKit policy > >> files, but we do not actually enab

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.07.13 19:19, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar) wrote: > > Anyway, I don't get what you are trying to achieve by your patch please > > elaborate. > > My thought was simple: "Hey! what is doing CAP_MKNOD here since is not > needed anymore for udev, remove them!". Ok course

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: >> Anyway, I don't get what you are trying to achieve by your patch please >> elaborate. > > My thought was simple: "Hey! what is doing CAP_MKNOD here since is not > needed anymore for udev, remove them!". Ok course, I did not think i

[systemd-devel] [PATCH v2] shell-completion: fix zsh completion installation

2013-07-25 Thread William Giokas
Moved zsh shell completion to shell-completion/zsh/_systemd for automake's sake. Also allow users to specify where the files should go with:: ./configure --with-zshcompletiondir=/path/to/some/where and by default going to `$datadir/zsh/vendor-functions` --- Makefile.am

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: allow specifying a custom pam session name

2013-07-25 Thread Marc-Antoine Perennou
On 26 July 2013 01:10, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Marc-Antoine Perennou > wrote: > > for distribution now wanting to use "systemd-shared" > > Could you explain a bit more why this needs to be configurable? What's > the usecase? > > Cheers, > > Tom > Oh, there is ob

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: allow specifying a custom pam session name

2013-07-25 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Marc-Antoine Perennou wrote: > for distribution now wanting to use "systemd-shared" Could you explain a bit more why this needs to be configurable? What's the usecase? Cheers, Tom ___ systemd-devel mailing list system

Re: [systemd-devel] unused translations in git

2013-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
2013/7/25 Lennart Poettering : > On Mon, 22.07.13 05:51, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> so it seems to me, we use gettext to translate the PolicyKit policy >> files, but we do not actually enable/ship them, as the po files are >> not added to po/LINGUAS. >> >> Admittedly, it

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 25/07/13 20:59 did gyre and gimble: > On Thu, 25.07.13 21:21, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 06:51:21PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Fri, 19.07.13 21:05, Pablo Nehab Hess (pa...@hess.net.br) wrote: >>> >>>

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] shell-completion: fix zsh completion installation

2013-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
2013/7/25 William Giokas <1007...@gmail.com>: > Moved zsh shell completion to shell-completion/zsh/_systemd for > automake's sake. Also allow users to specify where the files should go > with:: > > ./configure --with-zshcompletiondir=/path/to/some/where > > and by default going to `$datadir/zsh/s

Re: [systemd-devel] [Feature request] A way to native import /proc/cmdline within unit

2013-07-25 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
On 07/25/2013 05:06 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 20.07.13 16:37, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar) > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I am maintainer of Archiso project (The Arch Linux live ISO creator). >> >> I like a feature for systemd within unit files, mainly for importing >

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] build: allow specifying a custom pam session name

2013-07-25 Thread Marc-Antoine Perennou
for distribution now wanting to use "systemd-shared" Signed-off-by: Marc-Antoine Perennou --- Makefile.am| 1 + configure.ac | 10 ++ units/u...@.service.in | 2 +- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/Makefile.am b/Makefile.am index d013

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
On 07/25/2013 02:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 24.07.13 18:41, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar) > wrote: > > We generally try to make conditions specific to a feature rather than an > execution environment. Containers should run without CAP_MKMNOD, and as > udev origi

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > I'd vote by replacing it by > ConditionPathIsReadWrite=/sys since sane container managers mount that > read-only.) A change like that sounds great to me. Keying-off access to /sys is probably more appropriate for today's udev than the

Re: [systemd-devel] /etc/systemd/system/darkice.service

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.07.13 17:48, Kai Hendry (hen...@iki.fi) wrote: > > On 19 July 2013 01:29, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > It is certainly surprising at first, but it makes a lot of sense. In > > systemd ordering deps and requirement deps are truly orthogonal. This is > > useful in many cases, because s

Re: [systemd-devel] [Feature request] A way to native import /proc/cmdline within unit

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 16:37, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar) wrote: > Hello > > I am maintainer of Archiso project (The Arch Linux live ISO creator). > > I like a feature for systemd within unit files, mainly for importing > /proc/cmdline in initramfs stage, or in a generic form for

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.07.13 21:21, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 06:51:21PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Fri, 19.07.13 21:05, Pablo Nehab Hess (pa...@hess.net.br) wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I was wondering how much systemd could add to current hig

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Thursday 2013-07-25 18:52, Lennart Poettering wrote: >On Sun, 21.07.13 06:36, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@inai.de) wrote: >> > >> >I was wondering how much systemd could add to current high >> >availability cluster setups. >> >[...] >> >Does this idea even make sense? Is it too "one systemd to rule

Re: [systemd-devel] unused translations in git

2013-07-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 09:20:35PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 22.07.13 05:51, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > so it seems to me, we use gettext to translate the PolicyKit policy > > files, but we do not actually enable/ship them, as the po files are > > n

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 06:51:21PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 19.07.13 21:05, Pablo Nehab Hess (pa...@hess.net.br) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I was wondering how much systemd could add to current high > > availability cluster setups. > > > > Today systemd is used on HA clusters

Re: [systemd-devel] unused translations in git

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 22.07.13 05:51, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi, > > so it seems to me, we use gettext to translate the PolicyKit policy > files, but we do not actually enable/ship them, as the po files are > not added to po/LINGUAS. > > Admittedly, it's currently only a single translation

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] shell-completion: fix zsh completion installation

2013-07-25 Thread William Giokas
Moved zsh shell completion to shell-completion/zsh/_systemd for automake's sake. Also allow users to specify where the files should go with:: ./configure --with-zshcompletiondir=/path/to/some/where and by default going to `$datadir/zsh/site-functions` --- Honestly, this is my first foray into

Re: [systemd-devel] question about SecureBits / NoNewPrivileges

2013-07-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.07.2013 20:00, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Sat, 20.07.13 04:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> Hi >> >> i try to secure the Apache-Webserver (mpm-prefork) as much as possible >> >> am i right that with the following settings in the systemd-unit after the >> child-p

Re: [systemd-devel] [206] Randomly on shutdown, stop timeout for user@.service

2013-07-25 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 25/07/13 13:57, Lennart Poettering escribió: So for this one I have an idea what happens. I figure inside that scope unit you have a bash running? Yes. I figure we need to update the PID 1 scope kill logic to optionally send both SIGTERM and SIGHUP to the cgroup members. Ah, yeah, that

Re: [systemd-devel] question about SecureBits / NoNewPrivileges

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 04:06, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > Hi > > i try to secure the Apache-Webserver (mpm-prefork) as much as possible > > am i right that with the following settings in the systemd-unit after the > child-process > is forked with the "apache" user and the capabili

Re: [systemd-devel] [206] Randomly on shutdown, stop timeout for user@.service

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.07.13 14:50, Cristian Rodríguez (crrodrig...@opensuse.org) wrote: > > El 24/07/13 14:07, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi escribió: > >Hello > > > >I am using Arch Linux, and testing systemd-206 with linux-3.10.2 on > >shutdown, sometimes randomly there is a long delay until user@0.service > >ti

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 25.07.13 10:45, Thomas Bächler (tho...@archlinux.org) wrote: > Am 25.07.2013 10:18, schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 18:41 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi a > > écrit : > >> Signed-off-by: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi > >> --- > >> units/systemd-udev-settle.service.in

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.07.13 18:41, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi (vmlinuz...@yahoo.com.ar) wrote: We generally try to make conditions specific to a feature rather than an execution environment. Containers should run without CAP_MKMNOD, and as udev originally was in the business of creating device nodes we hence bou

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.07.13 06:36, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@inai.de) wrote: > > On Saturday 2013-07-20 02:05, Pablo Nehab Hess wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I was wondering how much systemd could add to current high > >availability cluster setups. > >[...] > >Does this idea even make sense? Is it too "one syst

Re: [systemd-devel] [IDEA] systemd as basis for HA clusters

2013-07-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.07.13 21:05, Pablo Nehab Hess (pa...@hess.net.br) wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering how much systemd could add to current high > availability cluster setups. > > Today systemd is used on HA clusters as just an init replacement. > However, there are systemd features that might come

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] dbus: use _cleanup_free_ instead of freeing ourself

2013-07-25 Thread Ronny Chevalier
--- src/core/dbus-execute.c | 3 +-- src/core/dbus-job.c | 11 ++- src/core/dbus-manager.c | 14 +++--- src/core/unit.c | 48 ++-- 4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 48 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/core/dbus-execute.c b/src

Re: [systemd-devel] Does systemd have points to spend many times to complete its process?

2013-07-25 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hello, 'Twas brillig, and Tony Seo at 25/07/13 11:49 did gyre and gimble: > I've analyzed a plot resulted in systemd-analyze plot. > > As you can see an attached image file, I got this image from my systemd. No image attached. THe mailing list likely stripped it out because it was too large. As

[systemd-devel] Udev rule question

2013-07-25 Thread Armin K.
Hello, we have been using Udev without systemd (currently tracking version 205) and we have a problem. The rule that worked some time ago (can't remember when) doesn't work anymore. It's alsa-utils rule for restoring the volume at boot using Udev rule. This is the current rule which doesn't work

[systemd-devel] Does systemd have points to spend many times to complete its process?

2013-07-25 Thread Tony Seo
Hello I'm Tony Seo. I've analyzed a plot resulted in systemd-analyze plot. As you can see an attached image file, I got this image from my systemd. While I have analyzed it, I have several questions. 1. what is "-.mount" ? when I first saw "-.mout", I was confused how to configure it. 2.

Re: [systemd-devel] /etc/systemd/system/darkice.service

2013-07-25 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Kai Hendry at 25/07/13 06:22 did gyre and gimble: > Going back to the timeout, I started the PI without a network. Waited > a minute or two. Then I started pingtest.service manually. I was > surprised that network-online.target doesn't turn active. I had to > manually start it. >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frederic Crozat at 25/07/13 09:54 did gyre and gimble: > Le jeudi 25 juillet 2013 à 10:45 +0200, Thomas Bächler a écrit : >> Am 25.07.2013 10:18, schrieb Frederic Crozat: >>> Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 18:41 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi a >>> écrit : Signed-off-by: Gerar

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le jeudi 25 juillet 2013 à 10:45 +0200, Thomas Bächler a écrit : > Am 25.07.2013 10:18, schrieb Frederic Crozat: > > Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 18:41 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi a > > écrit : > >> Signed-off-by: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi > >> --- > >> units/systemd-udev-settle.service.in | 1 -

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 25.07.2013 10:18, schrieb Frederic Crozat: > Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 18:41 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi a > écrit : >> Signed-off-by: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi >> --- >> units/systemd-udev-settle.service.in | 1 - >> units/systemd-udev-trigger.service.in | 1 - >> units/systemd-udevd-cont

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Drop ConditionCapability=CAP_MKNOD from *udev* units

2013-07-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
Le mercredi 24 juillet 2013 à 18:41 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi a écrit : > Signed-off-by: Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi > --- > units/systemd-udev-settle.service.in | 1 - > units/systemd-udev-trigger.service.in | 1 - > units/systemd-udevd-control.socket| 1 - > units/systemd-udevd-kernel.socke