Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC][PATCH] networkd: add a basic network daemon

2013-11-06 Thread ScotXW
On 11/06/2013 09:37 AM, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Looking at the feature list, why are you not contributing to connman instead? It seems you're going to be duplicating a ton of code And connman does what your goal is, meaning you can pre-provision static configurations without any of the more in

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-06 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 10:18 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:49:03PM +0100, ScotXW wrote: It is a pity that nobody on this entire list, wants to give me some concrete ideas for the numbers 1 to 8 in the scheme [1]. :-O Probably because this list is about systemd. Your question is

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-05 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 01:06 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Tuesday 2013-11-05 00:19, ScotXW wrote: On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the ones you listed. [Yes

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-05 Thread ScotXW
On 11/05/2013 12:44 AM, Greg KH wrote: On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Why do "we" have to do anything here? You are trying to document something that has been documented numerous times before, for no valid reason why it needs to be documented in this manner in the first place. It

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
Hi, On 11/05/2013 12:01 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: Most of this is just misleading, plain wrong or backwards. Systemd is not in-between the kernel and applications, especially not for the ones you listed. Yes it is, during the startup process! Y-axes represents the time, i.e. the start of systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
On 11/04/2013 11:55 PM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2013-11-04 23:48, ScotXW wrote: Hi, I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is very extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my purposes, the home user. [1] https

[systemd-devel] Scheme: Linux startup process with systemd

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
Hi, I created this [1] scheme. Can you help fill in the blank? I know there is very extensive documentation about systemd, it is way too extensive for my purposes, the home user. Regards, ScotX [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_startup_process_wip.svg

Re: [systemd-devel] Linux kernel API

2013-11-04 Thread ScotXW
Hi, On 11/02/2013 12:15 AM, Greg KH wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 12:05:23AM +0100, ScotXW wrote: On 11/01/2013 06:51 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 06:47:00PM +0100, ScotXW wrote: Hi, systemd is written exclusively for the Linux kernel because this offers advantages over the

Re: [systemd-devel] Linux kernel API

2013-11-01 Thread ScotXW
On 11/01/2013 06:51 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 06:47:00PM +0100, ScotXW wrote: Hi, systemd is written exclusively for the Linux kernel because this offers advantages over the POSIX API. To illustrate the difference between Linux kernel API and POSIX API I created a diagram, see

[systemd-devel] Linux kernel API

2013-11-01 Thread ScotXW
have a look and check whether it is correct? 2. Ideas? Off topic: Do you know more programs that are Linux kernel-only? Thank you, ScotXW [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_kernel_API.svg ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel