Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-07-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:41 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 00:48 +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Hi Wol, > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:02 AM Wol wrote: > > > > > > On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > > So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merg

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-07-07 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Fri, 2022-04-08 at 00:48 +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > Hi Wol, > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:02 AM Wol wrote: > > > > On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged-/usr are also > > > > the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: [systemd‑devel] Dropping split‑usr/unmerged‑usr support

2022-04-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 08.04.22 10:11, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote: > > So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged‑/usr are also > > the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do they really matter if we are > > talking about what to support in systemd? They'd not use our stuf

[systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Re: [systemd‑devel] Dropping split‑usr/unmerged‑usr support

2022-04-08 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Lennart Poettering schrieb am 07.04.2022 um 10:59 in Nachricht : > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > >> We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable >> future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require >> our users

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Wol
On 07/04/2022 23:48, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: A few conversations over the course of the day in an IRC channel isn't necessarily representative of the whole project, but the impression I got was way less so about hostility and more so just that nobody has gotten around to doing the work and trac

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Wol, On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:02 AM Wol wrote: > > On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged-/usr are also > >> the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do they really matter if we are > >> talking about what to support in systemd? Th

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Wol
On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged-/usr are also the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do they really matter if we are talking about what to support in systemd? They'd not use our stuff anyway, so why bother? There's probably also

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:18 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 10:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > > future. We are a "rolling

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:59 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > > our users to re-in

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 10:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > > our users to re-

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > our users to re-install, which makes large file system migrations > difficult. Also, ma

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 4:07 PM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > Hi, > > As part of our spring cleaning effort, we are considering when to drop > support for split/unmerged-usr filesystem layouts. > > A build-time warning was added last year: > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/9afd5e7b975e8051c0

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-05 Thread Kenneth Porter
On 4/5/2022 1:07 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote: As part of our spring cleaning effort, we are considering when to drop support for split/unmerged-usr filesystem layouts. For others like me who don't know this term. (I'd seen and appreciate the concept but didn't know what people called it.) https:

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am Di., 5. Apr. 2022 um 22:07 Uhr schrieb Luca Boccassi : > > Hi, > > As part of our spring cleaning effort, we are considering when to drop > support for split/unmerged-usr filesystem layouts. > > A build-time warning was added last year: > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/9afd5e7b975e8

[systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-05 Thread Luca Boccassi
Hi, As part of our spring cleaning effort, we are considering when to drop support for split/unmerged-usr filesystem layouts. A build-time warning was added last year: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/9afd5e7b975e8051c011ff9c07c95e80bd954469 We are now adding a runtime taint as well.