Re: t-and-f: If you don't have anything to hide....

2000-09-08 Thread FranciCash
In a message dated 9/8/00 1:07:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << While the rest of the world polices itself the dirty Americans resist. >> Having read the report, you statement above is "misleading" and perhaps shows a little "bias"!! Stella

t-and-f: Italian team to Sidney

2000-09-08 Thread ivan
Men 100: Colombo, Tilli 200: Cavallaro 400: Attene 800: Longo 1: Berradi 110hs: Pizzoli, Giaconi 400hs: Mori, Frinolli 3000St: Maffei PV: Gibilisco TJ: Camossi, Donato SP: Dal Soglio DT: Fortuna HT: Vizzoni, Paoluzzi 4x100: Colombo, Tilli, Cavallaro, Torrieri, Scuderi, Checcucci 20k: De Benedi

RE: t-and-f: If you don't have anything to hide....

2000-09-08 Thread malmo
True, the account of what actually happened at the track shows that Chaplin had more than reasonable requests. However, my statement, "While the rest of the world polices itself the dirty Americans resist" still stands. Ask former Drug Control Administration director Wade Exum and the USOCs for

t-and-f: drugs

2000-09-08 Thread northam
> Do away with the whole testing charade, and, voila, the sport is instantly >>"pure" and impervious to "drug scandals". >> We've been here before. Do we really need to go over old ground every time Craddock feels the need to dust off his conspiracy theory about Ben Johnson? Tony, e-mail me p

Re: t-and-f: If you don't have anything to hide....

2000-09-08 Thread Dalton Foster
We all have our biases which we believe are grounded in fact or some sense of fair play. In my opinion it really is not about spin, but which one of these stories we are predisposed to believe. D Dan Kaplan wrote: > That certainly does change the picture. I guess the important question > then b

t-and-f: Humor, the 'olympics of drugs' and Chinese cheating

2000-09-08 Thread Wilmar K
John Molvar schreef: > "There are multiple reasons for Ma and his runners' disqualification," > said He Huixian, spokeswoman for the Chinese Olympic > Committee (COC), in a comment candid by the standards of Chinese > officials. "Some of them are dropped due to suspicious blood test > results

t-and-f: too funny for words!

2000-09-08 Thread GHTFNedit
thanks to whomever it was who cited www.silly2000.com there's a lot of hilarious reading on there: satire rivaling Onion or National Lampoon at their best, but all Olympic related. gh

t-and-f: Blood tests/EPO

2000-09-08 Thread Bruce Glikin
In 1997 I began work on my first novel, 'Slinger Sanchez Running Gun', Amber Fields Publishing, published in September of 1998. The novel is about a young middle distance runner and his coach who risk everything in the pursuit of greatness. It starts at the 2000 U. S. Olympic Trials. The coach,

Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster

2000-09-08 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 9/8/00 8:04:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << How come only Olympic type sports seem to have any drug cheats - from the public's perspective? >> because we have drug testers/policy makers who think they're on a mission from god--the pro sports are doing a token exercise i

t-and-f: Brisbane 2000 Results

2000-09-08 Thread FranciCash
Brisbane 2000 Results BRISBANE, Australia. QEII stadium (all race distances in meters; only one athlete competed in some events): Women 100-1, Veronica Campbell, Jamaica, 11.28 seconds. 2, Lauren Hewitt, Australia, 11.53. 3, Sharon Cripps, Australia, 11.61. 4, Elly Hutton, Australia, 11

Re: t-and-f: Men's 400 Field

2000-09-08 Thread Horace Grant
Now that we have lamented the weakness of the 400m field which can only be weaker if Sanderlei P. ban holds up (What is happening with that anyway) does this mean that Greg Haughton may have a realistic chance at a medal? It would be the first 400m for Jamaica for a while. Are there any other slee

Re: t-and-f: Brisbane 2000 Results

2000-09-08 Thread R.T.
I am curious what attendance is like at this series of pre-Olympic meets in Australia, relative to stadium capacity and normal attendance at Australian meets during the regular Southern hemisphere athletics season. Is cold blustery weather and 'out-of-season' for Australia making these meets spar

Re: t-and-f: Humor, the 'olympics of drugs' and Chinese cheating

2000-09-08 Thread R.T.
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 19:01:41 +0200, you wrote: >I do remember some Europeans asking what >was true about American athletes not being tested because of 'lack of >money' (true or not, it is a popular story overhere) - which would make >accusations of the Chinese a bit akward. That might be true o

Re: t-and-f: Blood tests/EPO

2000-09-08 Thread R.T.
>A few on this list said two years ago that my notions (spoken in the words >of the Scot), could not happen. They said that blood testing would be >rejected on religious grounds. And that EPO testing could not be instituted >in time for Sydney because of legal reasons. HOWEVER, I think there migh

Re: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?

2000-09-08 Thread Conway
"Dan Kaplan" said: > However, most of those people keeping the US off the top level of the > podium are of Jamaican birth, so it's still pretty much a case of a large > talent pool delivering the top individuals. > Don't say that too loudly you might start the gene talk again ... :o) Conway Hi

Re: t-and-f: Silky Harrison fires warning for Johnson

2000-09-08 Thread Conway
Now we're cooking with gas Now it seems like a few days before the Olympics .. Outstanding .. Event just went from who cares to WOW .. I know I know .. When MJ wants to turn it on .. But at least now we know he just may have to ... Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message -

Re: t-and-f: Brisbane 2000 Results

2000-09-08 Thread Glenn Smith
ATHLETICS AUSTRALIA INFORMATION RELEASE RESULTS BRISBANE INTERNATIONAL ATHLETICS State Athletics Centre, QEII, Brisbane Friday September 8, 2000 WOMEN'S 100m Heat 1: (+0.0): 1. Veronica Campbell, JAM 11.28; 2. Lauren Hewitt, AUS 11.53; 3. Sharon Cripps, AUS 11.61; 4. Elly Hutton, AUS 11.65; 5. V

t-and-f: anything to hide

2000-09-08 Thread Macdezal
Now that I read the second story, I am even more conviced Chaplin did the right thing. People need to follow rules DMC The road to success is always under construction

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--set the table for.....

2000-09-08 Thread GHTFNedit
Allen Johnson a resounding winner, 68% to 32% for Austin. we'll see if T&FN can't arrange to buy Allen dinner in Sydney in the name of the list. see ya'll in a month--i'm desubscribing until my return (but if i have something of major import from oz will ahve some other list member post it f

RE: t-and-f: Blood tests/EPO

2000-09-08 Thread kim . wirgau
This is an excellent book. I enjoyed reading it. It does cover the "flip side" of what can happen with drug testing -- so it has to be done carefully. Great book and enjoyable reading. K Wirgau > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Glikin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, Septemb

t-and-f: Do things the right way

2000-09-08 Thread Macdezal
It is simply a matter of protecting the interest of your athletes and nothing more. I think Chaplin did the right thing. If your going to test someone it is important that things are done right and by the book. besides..why are you complaining anyway malmo? even if they use in competition rule

t-and-f: NY Times Coping Story

2000-09-08 Thread Ed Grant
Netters:     I am surprised there have been no posts yet on the NY Times story today about the impenmding release of an investigation of drugs in Olympic sports sponsored by the federal government and conducted by a team from Columbia University.         One item in it, if true, is

t-and-f: SWE-FIN Meet

2000-09-08 Thread Mats Åkerlind
Just to keep the list somewhat international Peter Larsson has mailed the results from the Sweden-Finland annual meet to the list. I'd like to add a few remarks to those of you that didn't notice or, as with me, erased too soon. 1. This meet is, as far as I know, the last dual country meet t

Re: t-and-f: drugs

2000-09-08 Thread A.J. Craddock
Well, Randall, clearly you have never researched the case, nor read what has been posted on the List. Ben Johnson NEVER tested positive for stanozolol at Seoul. That is what was originally announced to the Press.  And indeed there was stanozolol in Ben's urine sample.CRYSTALS OF PURE STANOZO

t-and-f: Christie clashes with TV crew on day of controversy

2000-09-08 Thread Eamonn Condon
Electronic Telegraph Saturday 9 September 2000 Tom Knight LINFORD CHRISTIE was at the centre of a drugs testing row at the British training camp yesterday as more controversy dogged the Sydney Olympics, which open on Friday. A British cyclist, Neil Campbell, was named by the World Anti-Doping

t-and-f: Enhancing the Olympic spirit

2000-09-08 Thread Eamonn Condon
Electronic Telegraph Saturday 9 September 2000 Paul Hayward FOR 30 years or more the Olympic family have been accused of pursuing drugged-up athletes with rather less fervour than, say, Kenneth Starr chased President Clinton. The International Olympic Committee were, said their critics, simply

t-and-f: U.S. TRACK STAR WITHDRAWS FROM OLYMPICS

2000-09-08 Thread Christopher Goss
U.S. TRACK STAR WITHDRAWS FROM OLYMPICS BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - Regina Jacobs, considered a top medal contender in the women's 1,500 meters, has withdrawn from the Olympics because of a viral infection. U.S. women's team coach Karen Dennis confirmed Jacobs' withdrawal Saturday. "She has been p

t-and-f: From "Emmy Award winning NBC"

2000-09-08 Thread malmo
http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusspt/apmegasports09-08-191013.asp?spt=OLY#bod y malmo!TM The UnofficialTM "Award-Winning" Track & Field Pundit of SydneyTM2000

t-and-f: Olympic Trivia

2000-09-08 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Irish Times Saturday, September 09, 2000 Each athlete at the Sydney Olympics has been supplied with 51 condoms - even though many team coaches have imposed a sex-ban during the Games. The organisers are clearly impressed by the stamina of Olympic athletes as they would need to have sex thr

t-and-f: Ban ruins happy Olympic family image

2000-09-08 Thread Eamonn Condon
Electronic Telegraph Saturday 9 September 2000 Mihir Bose THE Olympic movement, already desperately seeking to contain a growing drugs menace, is now faced with an even greater threat which goes to the very heart of the Olympic ideal as the world's most unique sporting event. Central to this

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TRACK STAR WITHDRAWS FROM OLYMPICS

2000-09-08 Thread Vulcanxc
With the announcement of Jacobs withdrawal from the Games will we or those outside the US cast stones of the leary type we have witnessed with other nation's withdrawals - that this is an EPO avoidance issue in actuality? So many on here are so quick to think that this past week or so as athle

t-and-f: regina out of sydney!

2000-09-08 Thread Edward Nigma
U.S. TRACK STAR WITHDRAWS FROM OLYMPICS BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - Regina Jacobs, considered a top medal contender in the women's 1,500 meters, has withdrawn from the Olympics because of a viral infection. U.S. women's team coach Karen Dennis confirmed Jacobs' withdrawal Saturday. "She has been p

t-and-f: Silky Harrison fires warning for Johnson

2000-09-08 Thread FranciCash
Silky Harrison fires warning for Johnson By Mitch Phillips BRISBANE, Sept 8 (Reuters) - American Alvin Harrison cruised to an Australian all-comers 400 metres record of 44.18 seconds on Friday and warned compatriot Michael Johnson he was gunning for gold in Sydney. Harrison's time in a warm

Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster

2000-09-08 Thread Runtenkm
American Football has a lot of other issues which would have me not recommend the sport to my boys which are larger than drug issues. At the elite level I suspect that drug use is just as rampant in the "professional" sports in the US - Baseball, Football, Hockey, not sure about Basketball an

Re: t-and-f: If you don't have anything to hide....

2000-09-08 Thread Dan Kaplan
That certainly does change the picture. I guess the important question then becomes, which of the stories has had less of a spin put on it? Dan --- "R.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The first news release last week explained what happened in > more detail than this news article. > It seems th