Re: t-and-f: IAAF GP Final Results

2000-10-06 Thread LOVE91397
In a message dated 00-10-05 20:56:56 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P 100 METRES HURDLES - WOMEN Wind: Pts 1 Devers Gail USA 12.85 24.0 2 Alozie Glory

Re: t-and-f: Comment from list member

2000-10-06 Thread Adam G Beaver
Mr Rohl and fellow listmembers, Though I have great sympathy for the harassment you have suffered as a walker on a list composed largely of very immature distance runners and a few precious honest athletics fans, I think that your personal message to Mantis--whether private or shared--was

RE: t-and-f: Comment from list member

2000-10-06 Thread Mike Casey
I agree lets keep it civil Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adam G Beaver Sent: 06 October 2000 11:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Comment from list member Mr Rohl and fellow listmembers, Though I have great sympathy

RE: t-and-f: Comment from list member

2000-10-06 Thread Justin Clouder
Adam et al, The responsibility for this was Mantis's - he forwarded a personal note to a public forum, something which is ALWAYS wrong and ALWAYS a severe breach of etiquette. I don't care what the Rohls and Mantis say to each other in private and it is not the place of ANY of us to pick Mike

t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

2000-10-06 Thread R.T.
It's as simple as looking at a globe. Australia is at the opposite side of the globe for both Europeans AND Americans. A heck of a long way. How's the best way to get home? For Europeans, Qatar is a convenient refueling and stretch-the-legs stop. For Americans, Hawaii is a convenient refueling

Re: t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

2000-10-06 Thread Elliott Oti
- Original Message - From: R.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's as simple as looking at a globe. Australia is at the opposite side of the globe for both Europeans AND Americans. A heck of a long way. How's the best way to get home? For Europeans, Qatar is a convenient refueling and

t-and-f: Comment from list member

2000-10-06 Thread Randall Northam
About time someone said something like this. I don't object so much to the bad language but to all the negativity. Randall Northam Mr Rohl and fellow listmembers, Though I have great sympathy for the harassment you have suffered as a walker on a list composed largely of very immature

t-and-f: ATFS annuals

2000-10-06 Thread ivan
I'm looking for the ATFS annuals before the 1982 edition. I have already found the 1975, 1976, 1978 editions. Ciao. Ivan Italy

Re: t-and-f: Chris Huffins - class act

2000-10-06 Thread David Sobal
Dan- I have to respond to your allegations that one must be arrogant to be a winner. When in HS, we had a guy on the team who was a mediocre 440 runner, but a champion wrestler. He was the kind of guy who would throw freshman in the lake on a sub freezing day just for fun, laughing the

Re: t-and-f: grand prix query

2000-10-06 Thread Elliott Oti
From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] An AP story on the GP final said, "Hattestad... gained bonus points with two world records this season..." I thought they only got bonus $$$ for WRs in Grand Prix meets, but these kind of points for Hattestad would be a way unfair advantage. It seems

t-and-f: Interior 1000 Issue

2000-10-06 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL
I just wanted to pop in here to say that Alan Shank a few days ago, notwithstanding a little flak he took, had some validity to the statistical point he was making. I wrote, on the women's Olympic 1500: If there is any explanation there with respect to exhaustion, it may be the interior 1000

Re: t-and-f: Scientific Facts for Suzy

2000-10-06 Thread John Lunn
It is most interesting that there are types of "facts". Here we have" scientific" facts, others talk about " true" facts, and we have the ever present "known" fact. Is there a difference between these types of facts? I thought that science is a proceedure that one uses to reach a conclusion, but

Re: t-and-f: devers at GP Final

2000-10-06 Thread Conway
Phil Weishaar wrote: 100 METRES HURDLES - WOMEN Wind: Pts 1 Devers Gail USA 12.85 24.0 2 Alozie Glory NGR 12.94 21.0 3 Ennis-London Delloreen JAM 12.96 18.0 4 Morrison Melissa USA 13.00 15.0 5 Couch-Jewell Sharon USA 13.06 12.0 6

Re: t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

2000-10-06 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Elliott Oti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is probably easiest for East Africans en route from Sydney. I think Kenyans travel via the Arabian peninsula. Don't most Olympic-caliber East Africans live in Europe much of the year? Dan = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that

Re: t-and-f: devers at GP Final

2000-10-06 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters Phil Weishaar wrote: 100 METRES HURDLES - WOMEN Wind:  Pts  1 Devers Gail USA 12.85 24.0  I guess TF has reached a level that I will never understand.  Conway

Re: t-and-f: Interior 1000 Issue

2000-10-06 Thread Alan Shank
CHRIS KUYKENDALL wrote: I just wanted to pop in here to say that Alan Shank a few days ago, notwithstanding a little flak he took, had some validity to the statistical point he was making. I wrote, on the women's Olympic 1500: If there is any explanation there with respect to exhaustion,

Re: t-and-f: Fwd: Translate and Respond

2000-10-06 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 6 Oct 2000 1:07:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Listers: I received this message which I do not understand. If someone can read this language and respond to and answer the writer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: t-and-f: Fwd: [OZTRACK] IAAF

Re: t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

2000-10-06 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't most Olympic-caliber East Africans live in Europe much of the year? Dan No. They only "live" in Europe while they're competing, which I suppose could be a good portion of the year, but not for any longer than they can help it. Most miss their

Re: t-and-f: Post Olympic Thoughts

2000-10-06 Thread Dalton Foster
Speaking specifically about the leg marion jones ran on the 1600m relay. Its was amazing. She looked like she was out for a jog while everyone else was running for their life. D Conway wrote: 100 meters - Both Greene and Jones appear to be as dominate at this distance as any two human beings

Re: t-and-f: Favor Hamilton Blames Medication

2000-10-06 Thread Buck Jones
Wisconsin runner Suzy Favor Hamilton now blames effects of anti-inflammatory pills she was taking for contributing to her fall... Relafen and the over-the-counter medicine Aleve... In my opinion, not likely. Try again... Cheers, Buck ___ Carleton 'Buck' Jones,

t-and-f: living overseas

2000-10-06 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Many of the elite level Kenyans (and other North and East Africans) live outside of their home countries for part or all of the year, every year. Do some research (instead of taking some other guy's word for it on the internet) and you will find that these athletes live in Holland, Germany,

t-and-f: Reifenstahl film redux

2000-10-06 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: Some time ago I posted a note regarding a planned film on the life of Leni Reifenstahl, who produced what many feel the greatest sports documentary film ever, Olympia, about the 1936 Olympics. Today, there was a short story in the Newark Star-Ledger about Jodie Foster's intent

RE: t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

2000-10-06 Thread Eckmann, Drew
So, what of the accounts that the European based Kenyans are at a rather severe disadvantage when returning "home" for the national championships, under conditions they are no longer accustomed to? There are about 2 thousand conditions they're no longer accustomed to. They're called

RE: t-and-f: Favor Hamilton Blames Medication

2000-10-06 Thread malmo
H. In the past, didn't they use diuretics to cover up the use of ... oh well, nevermind. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Buck Jones Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:57 PM To: TF Subject: Re: t-and-f: Favor Hamilton Blames

Re: t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA

2000-10-06 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 10/6/00 11:50:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Johnson's Dallas home is on the market for $1.4M Let's see, for $1.4M he could get, what, a 2 BR 1.5 BA in Bay Area, right? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: devers at GP Final

2000-10-06 Thread ed prytherch
Tony will continue to have fun as long as the cloak of secrecy persists. He appears to want an end to this as he favors abandoning testing. The National federations keep his fire burning. Ed Prytherch. Randall wrote: Surely Gail Devers could sue Tony Craddock for this. But then again why would

RE: t-and-f: LYNN NELSON in ULTRAMARATHON

2000-10-06 Thread Ray Cook
So what you're saying is that those of us on the list who have very little respect for the "race" walk (a definite oxymoron) should have even less respect for talent of ultra-marathoners. You're probably right -Ray -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA

2000-10-06 Thread mike fanelli
depends on which track geek realtor he has on the case (hint, hint...you listenin MJ?) - Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: MICHAEL JOHNSON MOVING TO CALIFORNIA In

t-and-f: Get off of Gail Devers!!!

2000-10-06 Thread howard
I can't believe you all can sit here and say that kind of stuff about Gail. What kind of shit is that. If you all were listing, you would know that she (Gail) said that she pulled up when she started to feel it (her hamstring) pull more. So she DIDN'T pull up with a big-time injury. Some of you

Re: t-and-f: devers

2000-10-06 Thread Tyler51086
Obviously, Devers didn't go to the Olympics with the intention of tanking it! She may indeed have regretted getting injured prior to the Olympics and may indeed be wondering if she wouldn't have been better off resting up a lot more before the Olympics. That is possible. But all this

Re: t-and-f: Get off of Gail Devers!!!

2000-10-06 Thread mike fanelli
WWWwwhhhoooaa Howardlet it ALL hang out. I'm with you as it relates to the rampant speculation/negativity in this forum..bunch of amateur private investigators pleading their cases with little or no substance...finding every single angle possible to castigate at a moment's

Re: t-and-f: devers

2000-10-06 Thread R.T.
Obviously, Devers didn't go to the Olympics with the intention of tanking it! She may indeed have regretted getting injured prior to the Olympics and may indeed be wondering if she wouldn't have been better off resting up a lot more before the Olympics. That is possible. But all this

RE: t-and-f: grand prix query

2000-10-06 Thread Post, Marty
An AP story on the GP final said, "Hattestad... gained bonus points with two world records this season..." I thought they only got bonus $$$ for WRs in Grand Prix meets, but these kind of points for Hattestad would be a way unfair advantage. It seems pretty absurd to award the same kind of bonus