Conway asks:
>...Should not the world record process also take into consideration "equal
>opportunity" of venue / conditions ??? Just a thought ...
Well, it would be the logical extension of the wind limit and the altitude
notation. And track's already got a thousand rules, so why not add a c
It is just my issue, or does everyone's new May issue of T&FNews have
Garry's editorial from April apparently erroneously repeated on the last
page instead of a discussion of the proposed IAAF rule changes that the
title promises?
I'm kinda hoping that I have a one-of-a-kind misprint, like a m
You're a good man Conway, a good man. :)
Damian
Even with drugs, these marks are astonishing. If
these women (if they really were women) were on drugs,
I just wonder how fast they could have run clean
because no matter how effective the
drugs/doping/supplements are, you can't run like this
without tremendous ability and training.
1500
Q
Runlikemad wrote:
>I understand what you are saying conway, that what Alan said isn't a
>sufficient enough reason by itself to question the WR's set by the chinese.
> But given all the circumstances before and after these records were set,
>and i dont mean to put you on the spot here (well n
GH wrote:
>
>Actually, a significant number of the marks you mentioned in your first
>post are indeed "not normal," but drugs play no part. But wind, altitude,
>timing and hardness of track were significant wild-card variables which
>played a definitite part in producing "anomalous" marks that
I understand what you are saying conway, that what Alan said isn't a sufficient enough
reason by itself to question the WR's set by the chinese. But given all the
circumstances before and after these records were set, and i dont mean to put you on
the spot here (well not too much anyway), do y
In a message dated Wed, 11 Apr 2001 7:03:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CPoTaf writes:
<< The HSI group has a 37.65 to their credit. This was done in Berlin last year with
the team of Jon Drummond, Bernard Williams, Curtis Johnson, and Maurice Greene,
defeating the team of Kenny Brokenbur, Tim M
Netters:
All I
can say to those who are welcming the introduction of the NCAA regionals is to
quote the ancient Spanish proverb:
"Take what you want, but pay for it," Or as St. Teresa of Avila put
it: "Beware of answered prayers."
The attraction of joining Rivals for DyeStat was not bells and whistles, but
advertising revenue. When the Internet advertising dried up, there was no
longer much of an attraction. I will go back to being "well done" on my own
and carry on as before.
John Dye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DyeStat - www.d
In a message dated Wed, 11 Apr 2001 6:39:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Conway Hill"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<< My intent was not to try to defend the marks made by the Chinese ... There are
many reasons to "question" what was accomplished by Ma's Army ... My point, however,
was that to
Dave Carey writes, arguing that the U.S. men's pole vault Olympic
drought actually was only 28 years, not 32:
<>
Well, let's see, here... I might concede the above, provided there is
agreement to the following type of corollary:
So if, say, we time-travel back to September 10, 2000, and Carl
In a message dated 4/10/01 4:27:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
honor to HSI's 4x1 from Texas, with a most-notable 37.88. The release noted
that the time was 0.48 off the WR, but more notable--and i don't know if
anybody else mentioned it before--note that it was a mere
My intent was not to try to defend the marks made by the Chinese ... There are many reasons to "question" what was accomplished by Ma's Army ... My point, however, was that to draw suspicion upon a record because "it seemed beyond what the individual had done before or since" is not a rational rea
In a message dated Wed, 11 Apr 2001 6:30:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "phalford"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<< With the talk of how volunteer sites almost always end up, it's ironic that
one of the few athletics sites with any sort of commercial backing,
Trackwire, has suffered because Rivals
With the talk of how volunteer sites almost always end up, it's ironic that
one of the few athletics sites with any sort of commercial backing,
Trackwire, has suffered because Rivals Network has reportedly shut down (see
www.trackwire.com).
Rivals.net was a great idea but my impression, from the
Meet entry information for the Cardinal Invitational (May 4) and
Cardinal Qualifier (May 13) to be held at Stanford University is now
available at either the men's or women's track page of gostanford.com.
Looks like the NCAA actually got the regional meet structure right. I vote
a big "YES".
Richard McCann
Conway says:
>So I don't th ink we should bandy about disparagingly regarding any record
>simply beause it is so much better than the individual did before ...
>Because most records end up being that way ...<<<
I don't disagree, but you seem to be forgetting that there was a lot more to
the
As I write, Yuriy Borzakovskiy has less than thirty minutes of
"teenagerhood" remaining. He turns 20 on Thursday.
I suppose that means no one will gawk at him quite so much for his
achievements in the future.
I usually don't take notice of things of this nature, except in this case.
April 12
In a message dated Thu, 29 Mar 2001 9:22:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Floyd
Highfill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<< No matter how they do it, the 200 (men and women) is a bad event to run
indoors.>>
This is an ancient thread to re-open, but I hadn't had time until now to peek at some
number
My May issue of Track and Field News came yesterday.
In it were two very comprehesive articles, one on the
pole vault and the other on the long jump. The articles
dealt with the situation of having lost our one time world
dominance in these two events.
The pole vault article contains
Alan wrote:
>It's not the fast time that makes us question these marks. It's the
>out of
>nowhere appearance that makes us question these marks. Most of these
>Chinese
>marks ('93, '97) were set at their Chinese Games by women who
>weren't big on
>the world scene beforehand and then disappea
Probably the most unbelievable part of Wang's 29:31.78 WR was not the time
itself, but the way she ran it.
She passed 7000m in 21:14.31, just slightly off pace to beat Kristiansen
record. And then reeled off an 8:17.47 last 3000. Five seconds faster than
the standing 3000m record which had been a
Could be wrong, but I believe Weldon Johnson qualified for the marathon and
the 10k and ran both. He was also allowed into the 5k because of some
strange rule that says if you qualify in one event you can compete in an
adjacent event. I think it was him. Could be getting the name wrong.
Alan
It's not the fast time that makes us question these marks. It's the out of
nowhere appearance that makes us question these marks. Most of these Chinese
marks ('93, '97) were set at their Chinese Games by women who weren't big on
the world scene beforehand and then disappeared for the most part
At 07:08 PM 4/10/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The next step after 37.79 would be the American All-Comer's Best of 37.69
set by Canada in Atlanta in !996. Actually, Santa Monica set their record
at Mt.Sac on 17 April 1994, which is the best by an all US team on US soil.
George
>honor to H
Does anyone know of any males in the US who qualified for the 5k/10k/and
Mar. for one Olympic Trials?
I had a friend who did so in 1984. We all thought it was good, but not
earth-shaking, because he went about 13:40/28:40/2:17:16 that year, and
there were plenty of sub-28:00/sub-2:10 guys at the
If the regions are purely geographical, then wouldn't
you have the odd
situation where geographically-broad conferences could in alternating
years
send their conference champions to different regionals? Taking Heptagonals
as an example, which regional its champions qualified for would
depend ye
Bruce Lehane wrote:
"I believe that, as in cross country, the regions will be of a geographic
nature, meaning determined by what state institutions are found in, rather
than what conference they compete in."
If the regions are purely geographical, then wouldn't you have the odd
situation where g
Shawn Devereaux wrote:
> Will the regions covers schools or conferences? Some conferences, like the SEC, are
> so spread out they could have schools that fall in 2 regions or more.
I believe that, as in cross country, the regions will be of a geographic nature,
meaning determined by what state
Will the regions covers schools or conferences? Some conferences, like the SEC, are
so spread out they could have schools that fall in 2 regions or more.
s.devereaux
Bruce Lehane wrote:
> The regions will run north to south. The largest number of schools are found in
> the eastern region,
> wh
It shows me how undercovered t&f must be the U.S. when I go to multi-sport
web sites and have to make about four clicks before I find track and field -
that's if I guess the right route to get there. Rather than putting it
under "Other sports", they sometimes have categories like "Olympic sports"
I agree with most of what Bob says. It would take an investor who can see
the niche is there - as has already happened in other sports of similar
popularity.
It's unfortunate that there are dozens of people around the world all
working hard on web sites that are destined to probably never to mak
DGS,
The only thing I take issue with is your assertion
that no one can get what they need from food alone.
This is patently not true. Sure it may be more
convenient and even necessary in some cases to take
supplements but it is very possible( a lot of people
including top athletes, do it) to get
A peculiarity about Meisler himself:
He must be the only US athlete whose personal best was set in Iarael (on July
1981, at 2.19 meters (6 feet 2.25 inches?) winning the Maccabia Games in an
exciting match with flopper Gideon Harmat- PR and NR 2.17m in the same meet -
and breaking the Israeli
36 matches
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