At 06:31 PM 12/4/2001 -0500, malmo wrote:
> >At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>
>No. Richard, it's you who has made the unsupported assumption that I made an
>unsupported assumption. "Top three go" means "top three...according to the
>USATFF
>guidlines." Of all of the members o
malmo wrote:
> I, much more than you could possibly ever know, have empathy for runners
> who train their asses off. But, if they can't make the "A" standard in
> the ample window given they simply do not belong on the Olympic stage.
> Too bad, it's the cold reality. I'll even take it a step furt
That's so very sad. What was third and forth choice of the little boys,
free sunglasses and bellybutton rings from the Galleria?
malmo
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Ah, Geoff, please don't speak for me. I have a big mouth and I'm quite
capable of doing that myself.
I haven't "conveniently ignored" anything. I just find this thread
asinine. Top three go? Why would I ever say that it is given? Never had
in the past.
Aw, isn't that cute, they're putting in eno
Why should we seek to prevent that tired old scenario of yours? Track
and Field and marathoning are athletic competitions. The whole concept
of competition is to win -- everything else is an afterthought.
GET YOUR QUALIFIER BEFORE YOU GO AND WIN THE DAMN THING ONCE YOU'RE
THERE! Everything will w
> Indeed, given the frequency of non-A winners, I'd say one's best chance of
> making the team would seem to be training to WIN the fershlugginer race,
no
> matter the conditions, and not worry about time, becuase only the winner
is
> likely to go.
Now I'm curious - what is the derivation of the
Paul Merca wrote:
>Some questions I have:
>
>- --I read the USATF release, and it mentions something about "prize
>money" being the top priority that the athletes wanted on the site
>selection...the question is, how many athletes were surveyed, and was
>there a range of ability levels surveyed
In a message dated 12/04/01 11:19:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Problem: You have just made an unsupported assumption--that the top three
will go. Unfortunately, as we saw in 2000, that is not a valid statement,
and I don't see any evidence yet that the situation will change by
2004. So
>At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
No. Richard, it's you who has made the unsupported assumption that I made an
unsupported assumption. "Top three go" means "top three...according to the USATFF
guidlines." Of all of the members on this list you are the only one who would
think I
> --I read the USATF release, and it mentions something about "prize
> money" being the top priority that the athletes wanted on the site
> selection...the question is, how many athletes were surveyed, and was
> there a range of ability levels surveyed (i.e., were most of the
> surveys returned fr
when it comes to getting an "A" level qualifier for the 2004 Olympic
marathon, some of our better marathoners ought to remember 1999 and consider
running the 2003 World Championships race
should that year's precedent be repeated a runner finishing in the top 20 of
the Worlds would automatically b
At 11:12 AM -0700 12/4/01, Benji Durden wrote:
>on 12/4/01 9:03 AM, Geoff Pietsch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>This, and other posts in a similar vein, are disappointing. Yes, the
>> weather will be what it will be, and the distance will indeed be 26.2, BUT
>> "Top three go" is NOT a give
Speaky of Buddy Holly, er I mean Buddy Edelen...He ran 2:14ish how many
years ago? 40 yrs? We have how many guys under that now? 2? 3? 4? This whine
and moan attitude isn't part of the problem it IS the problem. If you make
it to the trials, whether you are a 2:22 or 2:12 runner your goal is tw
At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:01:42 -0800
>From: "USATFRRIC/honikman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: t-and-f: St. Louis - marathon trials - IAAF "A" standards
>
>Remember the race will be run in the morning, not at the hottest time of the
>day. The r
At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Who the %*#$*@!! cares about the freaking weather? You guys are whining
>more than the athletes do these days. You guys are hell-bent on making
>something so damn simple so damn complicated. Stop it! The weather will
>be what it will be. The ra
At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Athens _will_ be hot and humid. The team should be made up of runners who
>have the training and tolerance for heat and humidity.
>
>bd
>- --
>Benji Durden
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I agree with Ed Parrot wholeheartedly (but maybe that's because we bo
At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>The temperatures or more properly temperature/humidity index was probably at
>least 15 to 20 degrees warmer than average norms for both Feb 26, 2000 in
>Columbia, South Carolina and May 7, 2000 in Pittsburgh, Pa.
Such weather variations during
At 06:56 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>St. Louis in early April in the AM has a very good chance of being good
>running conditions.
According to the Kansas City data posted earlier, there is only about a 69%
chance that the temps will fall into the 40 to 69 daily high range. Of
co
on 12/4/01 9:03 AM, Geoff Pietsch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This, and other posts in a similar vein, are disappointing. Yes, the
> weather will be what it will be, and the distance will indeed be 26.2, BUT
> "Top three go" is NOT a given. AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT (Which Malmo
> convenien
This, and other posts in a similar vein, are disappointing. Yes, the
weather will be what it will be, and the distance will indeed be 26.2, BUT
"Top three go" is NOT a given. AND THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT (Which Malmo
conveniently ignores).
Should the U.S. have three men who can run the "
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