Re: t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-20 Thread Mike Prizy
But, I believe Kobe played under 15 minutes per game his first year with the Lakers. We'll never know, but would he have been better prepared for the NBA if he had played two years of college like some other kid named Mike? Also, Tiger was one of the best in the world, and he and Kobe got multi

t-and-f: USATF Release: Burrell, Pappas win U.S. titles

2002-06-20 Thread USATF Communications
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track & Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, June 20, 2002 Burrell, Pappas win U.S. Titles BERKELEY, California - Tom

RE: t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-20 Thread Fred Finke
Just curious, But does the name Kobe Bryant come to anyone's mind? (He did it straight out of HS! He did the same thing (yeah, what a stupid move. ;) JMHO, But Scott Radzko got Webb to 3:53. Who is to say Webb will not get better? Hey, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. On the other hand, I co

Re: t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-20 Thread Elitnet
Not at all a proper comparison. Tiger and Webb. We are talking whole lot more dollars In a message dated 6/20/2002 8:36:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Would anybody have said to Tiger Woods that he needed to >stay at Stanford through a full four-year ride?

t-and-f: USATF Entries

2002-06-20 Thread TANFDONLEY
I find the way entries into the US championships are treated at the very least odd. Rules are publicly published, athletes enter and then declare. In one case (Dan OBrien) rules are completely ignored. In another case after athletes declare they seem to be bent severely. In both the case of the

t-and-f: Webb "going pro"

2002-06-20 Thread koala
first of all, "going pro" is probably misleading- I doubt Webb is doing it for the money he could realistically expect in the next year or two. Second, Would anybody have said to Tiger Woods that he needed to stay at Stanford through a full four-year ride? Sure there's a difference- Woods had al

t-and-f: Re: Question for R.D.s re: race insurance

2002-06-20 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> I asked the Alabama USATF to sanction the Oak Mountain 50K 2 years ago. They asked about the course, and about emergency services. >I told them (honestly) that runners could be 30 minutes or more from medical attention and that our response to a true emergency was to call >911, with a response

Re: t-and-f: Riley turning pro

2002-06-20 Thread Joseph Karlgaard
Riley is out of eligibility at Stanford.  He is simply taking the next step and is not leaving school early. >From: "Ed Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ed Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "track net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: t-and-f: Riley turning pro >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:20:53

Re: t-and-f: American distance running & walking

2002-06-20 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- "Wayne T. Armbrust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually I was referring more to the fact that Pena wouldn't > be there than the fact that Clausen would be absent. Gee, that sure was obvious from the statement that started this whole thread: "While the clinic is starting the most successful

t-and-f: Re: the walking situation is intolerable!

2002-06-20 Thread Richard McCann
At 12:33 PM 6/20/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >How often >do you need to be told that walkers do not lift on purpose and that >judging, to >maintain continuity with the past, is judged as seen by the human eye? It is >true that some athletes can be seen to be off the ground in still photos

Re: t-and-f: What is the debate?

2002-06-20 Thread Richard McCann
At 12:33 PM 6/20/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:29:31 -0400 >From: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: What is the debate? > >All I'm saying is that the NCAA is not the be all and end all. Case in point: >1:42.47 Yuriy Borzakovskiy RUS 12

t-and-f: Riley turning pro

2002-06-20 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: There is, of course, no copmparison between the decisions of Alan Webb and Jonathan Riley to turn pro. Webb is aborting a promsining college career; Riley is taking the next step after an impressive tour at Stanford. I wish Jonathan nothing but the best; he desrves it. I

t-and-f: USATF Release: Greene, Montgomery ready for 100m face-off

2002-06-20 Thread USATF Communications
Contact:Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org 317-261-0500 x360 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, June 20, 2002 Greene, Montgomery ready for 100m face-off PALO ALTO, Calif. - At

Re: t-and-f: American distance running & walking

2002-06-20 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Hopefully my last post on this subject: Fitness walkers have no more connection with race walkers than joggers do with Gabrselassie. I don't blame you for not wanting fitness walkers in your race or at least not giving them awards. Judging walkers in a running race is impossible because they u

Re: t-and-f: American distance running & walking

2002-06-20 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Actually I was referring more to the fact that Pena wouldn't be there than the fact that Clausen would be absent. Pena also, for those of you who aren't aware, coached '96 OG 20k walk champ Jefferson Perez. To rule out the possibility that endurance coaches could not learn from him but could lea

Re: t-and-f: American distance running & walking

2002-06-20 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> I disagree with both premises in that I find the walks a preposterous event > in which we measure "who can whisper the loudest" (and we all can see > substantial cheating on technique with much more clarity than the use of > drugs that raises so much controversy on this list--even Clausen has be

t-and-f: Sacto priced out of 2007 world masters meet

2002-06-20 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask: USATF Masters Chairman George Mathews has informed us that Sacramento has opted not to bid for the 2007 world masters athletic championships in the wake of a sudden WMA Council decision to charge bid cities $150,000 each. Full report is at: http://www.masterstrack.com/news2002/news200

Re: t-and-f: American distance running & walking

2002-06-20 Thread Richard McCann
I was probably being too harsh if I was inferring that walking coaches are unqualified, and yes, I agree distance runners can learn from walking coaches, as well as coaches from other disciplines. However, the issue that was raised by Wayne Armbrust (and perhaps we got off topic) was that some

Re: t-and-f: Marla in NYC Marathon

2002-06-20 Thread Tom Derderian
I understand Benji's humor and point. If you put glasses on any runner rendering the eyesight like Marla's that runner would run the same road or track times as without the vision impairment. That term I just used, vision impairment, is less deceiving than the enhancing adjective "legally" preceed

Re: t-and-f: Marla in NYC Marathon

2002-06-20 Thread Benji Durden
> I expect better than this from you, Benji. Is it ignorance, cynicism or a > failed attempt at humor? I forgot the (;-). It is an attempt at humor, but also at attempt to show my future anger at commentators who will miss the point of Runyan in the race and make it about her "disability". bd --

RE: t-and-f: Hootie IV

2002-06-20 Thread toby -
i can't say for certain as they will have to be determined by the steering committee of FBU. if i were you, i'd take my chances as they can be very forgiving at times. toby From: "Chapman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'toby -'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f:

t-and-f: USATF Entries

2002-06-20 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
Perusing the declared entries, note that McMullen and Krummenacker are running the 800 instead of the 1500, Deal, Croghan, and James are making comebacks, and Cantwell has scratched (he strained his wrist in a meet before NCAA). -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx™ 3604 Gra