t-and-f: coaches at Iowa Illinois State?

2002-08-02 Thread Mike Trujillo
Listers, I was somewhat surprised to read in this morning's paper that Iowa and Illinois State have new cross country and track field coaches. Wayne Angel, who was at Wichita State last year, is the new women's head XC and asst TF at Iowa. What happened to Joan Hansen at Iowa?

Re: t-and-f: coaches at Iowa Illinois State?

2002-08-02 Thread Deborah Harris
Jeff Pigg is now at the university of florida... http://www.gatorzone.com/crosscountry/ on 8/2/02 9:18 AM, Mike Trujillo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Listers, I was somewhat surprised to read in this morning's paper that Iowa and Illinois State have new cross country and track field

Re: t-and-f: coaches at Iowa Illinois State?

2002-08-02 Thread Kebba Tolbert
Jeff Pigg took the xc/dist job at Florida From: Mike Trujillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mike Trujillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: coaches at Iowa Illinois State? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:18:46 -0500 Listers, I was somewhat surprised to read in this

t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread Randall Northam
I'm sure there is a logical explanation but I can't think what it is. We were told a while ago on this list that Kenyans would never make sprinters or footballers. Wrong body shape was the expression I remember. But guess what happened in the Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens today? For those of

t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread Robert Hersh
Message text written by Randall Northam But guess what happened in the Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens today? It's funny you ask, Randall. I was just having lunch with a business colleague here in New York and he said Gee, I wonder what's happening in the Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens. :-)

Re: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread Kurt Bray
They must be Kenyans from West Africa Conversely, David Krumemnacker must somehow be of east African descent, either that or his recent hot middle distance performances did not happen - or so we're told. Kurt Bray _ Join

Re: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread ghill
From: Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 18:05:02 +0100 To: posting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Kenyans I'm sure there is a logical explanation but I can't think what it is. They found 7 Kenyans willing to take

RE: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread P.F.Talbot
Are any of them from the rift valley? Kenya's distance runners come from a very small population in Kenya. I don't think any of the major ethno-national groups in Kenya has produced any great distance runners. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On

RE: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread Joel Gruver
Hey Paul, While most of Kenya's celebrated distance runners are Kalenjin (group of tribes including the Nandi, Terik, Kipsigis...), there are a few exceptions. Most notably, John Ngugi (5 CC world titles and 1 Olympic gold in the 5k) is a Kikuyu, the most populous ethnic group in Kenya. Joel

Re: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread ghill
From: P.F.Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: P.F.Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:52:11 -0700 To: Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED], posting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Kenyans Are any of them from the rift valley? Kenya's distance runners come from a

Re: t-and-f: women's AOY

2002-08-02 Thread Richard McCann
At 06:44 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, Garry Hill wrote.. Before I'd ever vote for her as AOY she'd have to win a major track race. Sorry, Commonwealth doesn't count, old chaps. In a non WC/Oly year, what counts as a major track race? From what I saw of the Commonwealth Games results, sure looked a lot

t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

2002-08-02 Thread Richard McCann
At 06:44 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. I'd say the 3k/marathon is in the same ballpark. George Young was mostly a steepler and he made the Oly Marathon team. Another George who roams the list was also a good steepler/marathoner. The steeplechase is run at 10k pace per lap. If you

RE: t-and-f: Kenyans

2002-08-02 Thread Kurt Bray
While most of Kenya's celebrated distance runners are Kalenjin (group of tribes including the Nandi, Terik, Kipsigis...), there are a few exceptions. Most notably, John Ngugi (5 CC world titles and 1 Olympic gold in the 5k) is a Kikuyu, the most populous ethnic group in Kenya. Wilson

t-and-f: USATF Release: Olympians to lead Team USA at 2002 NACAC Championships

2002-08-02 Thread USATF Communications
Contact:Melissa Beasley USA Track Field Communications Coordinator 317-261-0478 x335 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, August 2, 2002 Olympians to lead Team USA at 2002

Re: t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

2002-08-02 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
Saying that the 3K/marathon is in the same ballpark is like saying that the 100/400 is in the same ballpark. There are a few people who can have success at the elite level in both, but most people can't. More importantly, the training is (or should be) very different once you get to the highest

Re: t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

2002-08-02 Thread Randy Treadway
More importantly, the training is (or should be) very different once you get to the highest levels. That may not have been as true 25 years ago, but it's certainly true now. What may have been true 25 years ago for the men may still be true today for the women. Remember that it's only very

RE: t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

2002-08-02 Thread malmo
I believe it's the other way around. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard McCann Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 3:49 PM To: TFMail List Cc: alan tobin Subject: t-and-f: marathon vs 3k At 06:44 PM 8/1/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest

RE: t-and-f: AOY timng (was: women's AOY)

2002-08-02 Thread Post, Marty
As much as I've been beating the drum for picking London Marathon (et al) winner Paula Radcliffe as prospective women's AOY, I don't think Khannouchi has any chnace of rating as men's AOY (unless maybe he breaks 2:05 at Chicago). His won-loss record outside of the marathon is pretty

RE: t-and-f: women's AOY

2002-08-02 Thread Post, Marty
When talking about Radcliffe it's important to note not that she just moved up from world class track (and half-marathon) ability to the marathon, but that just three months later she's gone back down to the shorter distances and run faster than ever. Kristiansen set WRs in the 5000 and 10,000

Re: t-and-f: AOY timng (was: women's AOY)

2002-08-02 Thread ghill
From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:16:35 -0400 To: 'ghill ' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'track list '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: AOY timng (was: women's AOY) As much as I've been beating the drum for picking London Marathon (et al) winner Paula Radcliffe as

Re: t-and-f: women's AOY

2002-08-02 Thread ghill
From: Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 20:35:25 -0400 To: 'alan tobin ' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Post, Marty[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f:

RE: t-and-f: women's AOY

2002-08-02 Thread Post, Marty
I think field event fans whine too much about the lack of respect their favorites get in regards to AOY recognition. A busy field-eventer can rack up 15 or 20 wins a year and that 20-0 record looks pretty good at year's end even though a handful of those wins may have come against less than

Re: t-and-f: AOY timng (was: women's AOY)

2002-08-02 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
As much as I've been beating the drum for picking London Marathon (et al) winner Paula Radcliffe as prospective women's AOY, I don't think Khannouchi has any chnace of rating as men's AOY (unless maybe he breaks 2:05 at Chicago). His won-loss record outside of the marathon is pretty

RE: t-and-f: marathon vs 3k

2002-08-02 Thread nad wilson
i don't think steeplers do better in 10ks/cross than 1500s and 5ks. actually, most of the good US steeplers now weren't the best XC runners in college. For the most part they are all 1500/steeple guys. Some can go up to the 5k. However, 4K cross- now there is an event where steeplers do