Martin,
Speaking of journalistic inaccuracy, I'm not sure whether the reference
to a "5km race out in the middle of nowhere" is a statement made by yourself
or a quote from your local newspaper.
Regardless, I would not consider a 5 K. along the harbour in downtown
Victoria (Capi
Yes it is...
In a message dated 9/4/2002 8:30:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> It's called political expediency.
> I'm not sure I've seen it stated as policy anywhere, but it would seem
> likely that IAAF is reacting to IOC pressure to reduce number of
contestants
> for the Olympics. Note that WC standards are now linked to OG, which
didn't
> used to be the case.
I haven't looked at all the standards, but i
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> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:55:35 EDT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: t-and-f: Re: Morrocco and journalism
>
> I'm totally confused..
>
>
> http://sportsserver.com/track_field/story/522930p-4148845c.html";>
> Sp
I'm totally confused..
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> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:25:37 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: t-and-f: Why The Higher World Champs Standards?
>
> I was wondering if someone on the list has some insight into why the A and B
> standards for the World Champions
I was wondering if someone on the list has some insight into why the A and B standards
for the World Championships continue to escalate relative to the yearly world lists.
For instance I randomly picked 4 field events (mens and womens HJ and DT) and looked
at the average field size for 97,99 an
Attacking journalists when they make mistakes, however, clearly is not
appropriate or effective most of the time.
- Ed Parrot
But it's OK for journalists to do the same?
malmo
At 11:37 AM 9/4/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Anyone who says "anytime I read a newspaper article about which I am
>intimately familiar, the errors are numerous" is just too arrogant for
>his
>own good."
I probably can guess who might have said this, and I know something about
James Raia (
(as they say, stop me if you've heard this one)
So this guy shows up at the Pearly Gates and St. Peter says, "What the
heck--Peter's allowed to say 'heck'--are you doing here? You aren't due for
another 25 years. Peter checks the big book, finds there has been a computer
error.
So guy says, "Y
on 4/9/02 20:25, Bloomquist, Bret at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a staff of five full-time employees trying to write, edit and produce
> a six-page sports section seven days a week, 365 days a year. If you're
> interested in this type of thing, you must have a college degree, be willing
> t
> From: John Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: John Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:47:02 -0600
> To: Ed and Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "\"\\\"Athletics\\\"\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: t-and-f: Viren article and journalism
> I guess that when I sign u
Ed and Dana Parrot wrote:
> Clearly publishers/owners (because the buck
> must stop with tme) have decided that accuracy can be sacrificed.
I guess that when I sign up for the Rocky Mountain News for one year for $3.12
and an extra year for $.01that I also have made the decision that accuracy
- Original Message -
From: "Bloomquist, Bret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> As a journalist who makes many mistakes on an every-day basis, let me
offer
> my thoughts.
>
> Unless you're talking about the Dallas Morning News, sports departments
are
> tremendously understaffed and overworked. We d
Very thoughtful post.
I would say that both the salary and time pressure that he mentions can
explain much of the problem. Clearly publishers/owners (because the buck
must stop with tme) have decided that accuracy can be sacrificed. All the
more reason for people to complain rather than simply
As a journalist who makes many mistakes on an every-day basis, let me offer
my thoughts.
Unless you're talking about the Dallas Morning News, sports departments are
tremendously understaffed and overworked. We don't have time to craft
stories and triple-check every fact we put in a story like we
One other thing that our anonymous friend did other than making me fall for the
bait is that he selectively edited my statement. I said "it seems like...". A
perception, in other words. But then SOME journalists(no one on this list!) will
use that trick too-take people out of context for their own
> "Yeah, if there's anything that makes me not want to cover track and
field,
> it's the fact that there is so much data, coupled with some really
> persnickety fans. Not to say all track fans are that way, but I've been
> on the t-and-f list before, and it gets pretty nauseating.
>. . . . .
> Any
I was trying not to offend anyone. It was an observation but I stand by my
statement and I have made it before and I am not just talking about track.
Me thinks that it hit a little too close to home. I don't think it is
arrogant to try to be accurate. Maybe it's just the nature of the beast
produc
--- James Tysell's anonymous friend wrote:
> Anyone who says "anytime I read a newspaper article about which I am
> intimately familiar, the errors are numerous" is just too arrogant for
> his own good."
You learn something new every day... I now know that knowledge and
arrogance are the same th
That paper's coverage of nationals last year was spectacular. I'm the sports
editor of a mid-sized paper in Texas, and when our town hosted the NCAA
Division II meet, our goal was to cover it like Eugene covered nationals.
That paper is remarkable with its track coverage.
> -Original Message-
Netters:
I certainly endorse Ryan Grote's sentiements on Mark Wetmore if not
quite the way he expressed them.
Mark is someone who cares about kids. I may have told this story
before, but, if so it it worth repeating.
Some years ago, I received a call from an old friend whos
T & F fans,
I sent a couple of entries to the list about the Viren article to a
journalist friend of mine, here in N. Calif.
Here is his reaction:
"Yeah, if there's anything that makes me not want to cover track and
field,
it's the fact that there is so much data, coupled with some really
pe
A friend of Track & Field: John Conrad
http://www.registerguard.com/conrad/editorial.html
Jim Tysell
That was similar to the philosophy of one of my HS track coaches, who
was really just a football coach who got stuck with us. I was talking
about strategy in the two-mile, and he said "What strategy? Run fast
and keep turning left." While there is a certain logic to that, I was
still grateful
2002 Men's NCAA XC Preview
by John Molvar
Teams
Colorado is the defending champion and they expected to have their top 4
back, all who have significantly improved in the last year. In addition
they have some outstanding freshmen coming in. Does this make them a lock
to repeat this ye
There are rumors that Justin Gatlin is giving up the rest of the his college
eligibility at Tennessee to pursue a pro track career.
on 4/9/02 11:11, Martin J. Dixon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> No offense to the writers on this list but it seems like anytime I read a
> newspaper article about which I am intimately familiar, the errors are
> numerous.
> It makes me wonder about the articles I read about which I know nothing.
No offense to the writers on this list but it seems like anytime I read a
newspaper article about which I am intimately familiar, the errors are numerous.
It makes me wonder about the articles I read about which I know nothing.
Regards,
Martin
Kurt Bray wrote:
> >story also says blood-doping sto
A Book with 50 top marks for 1941- 1950 have been published by ATFS. Roberto
Quercetani is the main compiler. It is one of the series "track and Field
performances over the years".
Surely Scott Davis knows where you can get them. Also Peter Matthews.
For 1951 and on there are the individual ye
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