Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> not really... i think that's half of the problem with NCAA T&F. I think part > of our job is to look at athletes long-term development and not see them as > 4-yr workhorses. > > **Of course the NCAA's are super-important**. But why shoudn't coaches try > to promote an envrionment where kids will

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 9/9/02 7:55:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >But I think it's almost criminal to kill a kid so that >they can't compete at their country's national champs. If it were, they couldn't build enough jails. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 9/9/02 5:11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Does anybody know anything about Atkinson? I have to think either he >doesn't know much about running, or assumes his readers don't, to >pitch the idea of a sub-2 in 1968. I groaned when I read that part. Didn't he change his na

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
> > From: "Kebba Tolbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:03:50 -0400 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend? > > > > o... what I'm saying is why would you load up at IC4A's with the following > > meets in about a 6-7 week block. > > > > Pe

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread Kebba Tolbert
>From: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: track list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend? >Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 16:31:54 -0700 > > > > > From: "Kebba Tolbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:03:50 -0400 > > T

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread ghill
> From: "Kebba Tolbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:03:50 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend? > > o... what I'm saying is why would you load up at IC4A's with the following > meets in about a 6-7 week block. > > Penn Relays > Bi

RE: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Jones, Carleton
Sounds like a choice between chocolate covered marshmallow or mud covered marshmallow to me :-) -Buck -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:00 PM To: track list Subject: Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick > From: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL P

Re: t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: September 9, 2002

2002-09-09 Thread Mike Takaha
The events: 100m, LJ, 200mH, SP, 5000m, 800m, HJ, 400m, HT, 3000mSC, 110mH, DT, 200m, PV, 3000m, 400mH, JT, 1500m, TJ, 10,000m Results are available at http://www.tilastopaja.net/results/7310315.htm Mike Takaha - Original Message - From: "FJ LEE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread ghill
> From: "Kebba Tolbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Kebba Tolbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:13:00 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend? > > with regionals I don't think very many schools are going to put any > emphasis on t

Re: t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: September 9, 2002

2002-09-09 Thread FJ LEE
> Janvrin claims “double-decathlon” record > > In a display of track and field versatility and stamina, 37-year-old Kip > Janvrin won the Double Decathlon World Championships Sunday in Turku, > Finland, with a two-day world-best score of 14,185 points. > I am very curious what Janvrin did for the

Re: t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread Kebba Tolbert
with regionals I don't think very many schools are going to put any emphasis on the outdoor IC4a/ECAC meet. Kebba Tolbert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) = Men's and Women's Jumps & Multis Coach Syracuse University Track & Field >From: ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: ghill <[EMAIL PROT

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread ghill
> From: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:22:15 -0700 (PDT) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick > > Why not take Greene's speed and Khannouchi's stamina??> Or my looks and Anna Nicole Smith's brai

t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: September 9, 2002

2002-09-09 Thread USATF Communications
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track & Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News & Notes Volume 3, Number 87 September 9, 2002 Favor Hamilton wins in Ri

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- Marco Velediaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they wrote in 1998: "A combination of Coe's speed and either > Scott's (Steve) or Morceli's stamina suggests a sub-3:40 mile > time (and 3:22-3:23/1500 m)is definitely possible..." I haven't read Run With The Best, so maybe this is addressed (bu

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread Lee Nichols
That's it! Thanks, Bill (and everyone else who replied). That was driving me crazy. I just found on a google search that it got made into a 1970 movie, starring Michael Crawford and Ryan O'Neal. Does anybody know anything about Atkinson? I have to think either he doesn't know much about runni

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread Geoff Pietsch
You're thinking of "The Games" by Hugh Atkinson, published in 1968 - and made into a movie. Don't recall if I saw it - probably did but one represses terrible memories. Starred Ryan O'Neal - who was about as believable as a marathoner as Michael Douglas was in a similar role. And Erich Segal

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread ghill
You're referring to "The Games" by Hugh Atkinson, which also became a real potboiler of a movie (1970) with Stanley Baker and Ryan O'Neal (as a marathoner!) as the most recognizable of the principals. http://us.imdb.com/Title?0065757 gh > From: Lee Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Lee Ni

Re: t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread Bill Allen
I'm almost certain the book you have in mind is The Games by Hugh Atkinson, Simon & Schuster, 1967-68. A friend, knowing of my interest, recommended it to me years ago, and I own it. But, I must confess, I have never read it through. The marathon is the theme, though, for sure. An American, an E

t-and-f: searching for a book title

2002-09-09 Thread Lee Nichols
In high school, I stumbled across a book in the library that I think was titled "The Olympics," but I'm not sure. Can't remember the author. It was a fictional novel, not particularly good, and I think set in a fictional Latin American nation, although it was clearly supposed to be Mexico City

t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Marco Velediaz
Australian coach Tony Benson wrote about a figure that links an athlete's speed and endurance called "stamina indicator" in the excellent book "Run with the best" (co-author Irv Ray), among other things they wrote in 1998: "A combination of Coe's speed and either Scott's (Steve) or Morceli'

t-and-f: "super-conference" weekend?

2002-09-09 Thread ghill
It's not quite March Madness, but I would hope that collegiate track can make some hay out of the fact that not only do we now have a Regionals weekend leading into Nationals (albeit w/ a week's separation), but it appears we're also going to have (again w/ a week off) a major conjunction of confe

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Michael Contopoulos
I think coming through 1200 faster than any human has ever gone through 1200, and having no one with him the last 300, may have had something to do with that. >From: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'t-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail)"

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread malmo
I have a wild another of my wild theories: Could it possibly be that 2:44:75 did him in? malmo >Maybe it comes from being 4 years older, but El Guerrouj certainly doesn't >seem to have the finishing kick now that he did in 1998. Not that the last >300 in Rieti was exactly slow, but compare it

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread malmo
I have a wild another of my wild theories: Could it possibly be that 2:44:75 did him in? malmo >Maybe it comes from being 4 years older, but El Guerrouj certainly doesn't >seem to have the finishing kick now that he did in 1998. Not that the last >300 in Rieti was exactly slow, but compare it

Re: t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Lee Nichols
>Maybe it comes from being 4 years older, but El Guerrouj certainly doesn't >seem to have the finishing kick now that he did in 1998. Not that the last >300 in Rieti was exactly slow, but compare it to his world record: > >Rome '98: 2:46.34 @ 1200m + 39.66 last 300m = 3:26.00 >Rieti '02: 2:44.75 @

t-and-f: El Guerrouj's kick

2002-09-09 Thread Post, Marty
Maybe it comes from being 4 years older, but El Guerrouj certainly doesn't seem to have the finishing kick now that he did in 1998. Not that the last 300 in Rieti was exactly slow, but compare it to his world record: Rome '98: 2:46.34 @ 1200m + 39.66 last 300m = 3:26.00 Rieti '02: 2:44.75 @ 1200m

t-and-f: Coaching position

2002-09-09 Thread Keith Whitman
Muskingum College invites applications for a ten month position, with one year renewable contract for graduate assistant coach in Cross Country and Track. Includes tuition remission, monthly stipend, room, and board. Requires Bachelors Degree and candidate must qualify for admission into the Gradu

Re: t-and-f: Rieti

2002-09-09 Thread goldbu1
Like this "bomber" by Bungey, or a 1:43.15 by Mehdi Baala. UG == Quoting Randall Northam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Surely something's got to be done about Reiti. Look at those middle > distance > marks compared with the sprints. Yet, as I understand it, Rieti, being > in > the hills east o