...or Lyudmila Bragina (3 WRs in the three phases of 150m women in 1972).
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Uri Goldbourt, PhD
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:54 AM
To: Michael Contopoulos; [EMAIL PROTECTED
So even someone not named Olga Yegorova , or Florence Griffith (other
examples can be thought of) can, at age 29 years and 4 months, right after a
miserable WC championships in which he looked as if he was dropped from the
world's elite in the particular specialty, smash his own PR (from which he
Radcliffe 6th in a race- is that news? that's routine.
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik van Leeuwen
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:11 PM
To: Alan Shank; Track Posts
Subject: Re: t-and-f: WARNING - Van Damme results discussed - page
In far away Israel, from where most of you get to watch - on TV- only
atrocities and the aftermath suicide bombers, as if these were the only
things taking place - we had the FULL races, the absence of which you
lament. The rights to broadcast the entire Golden League were purchased by
the main lo
This is not totally accurate but right now I do not have the time to
elaborate.
This is not the case of steroids used for quicker recovery.
UG
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El Gerroujh did much more of the work in this as well as the previous world
champs in Seville than did a good number of others who won races this long
and longer.
El-G violated fair play and disqualified? I can't believe this is serious.
UG
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Also, Richard was the brother of Ismael Kirui, the 1993 (beating
Gebresilassie in a courageous front run and a very early break) and 1995
5000m world champion. They had different family names, presumably "because
they were raised by different grandparents" (?).
UG
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"as far as you know" Saidi Sief never ran below 3:30.
Well, he did just this in Lausanne on July 4th, timed in 3:29.51 and beating
Laban Rotich (3:33.27), Ngeny (3:33.63), WC bronze medal winner Maazouzi
(3:33.71) and others.
UG
on
-Origi
Why just Dimitrova? Is it because she comes from Eastern Europe? every one
else exempt by default?
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sandra K
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: t-and-f: Re: "Built Like T
Amazing and amusing stories...
(but how about a couple of US athletes who are also "built like tanks". How
does one know if they belong to the "not caught"? ...or do "bad guys" hail
exclusively from Greece and former USSR republics...)
UG
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No male sprinters either, no 4 by 100m team, the men's team is almost a
filed event team and even at that they have only one pole alters (after
Maxim Tarsaov's disastrous injury) - when did the Russians last appear
without three pole vaulters in a major championships (they could have
fielded four
h".
Thanks
for voicing your opinion and explaining your views. One learns from useful
dialogues.
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:55
PMTo: Uri Goldbourt, PhD; David Andersen;
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T
Dear Winfried,
What do you click (with the "steeple.de" site open) to obtain the
US-Germany Decathlon results?
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Winfried Kramer
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:17 AM
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Well written (and an excellent comparable example related to the US trials).
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Randall Northam
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:12 PM
To: David Andersen
Cc: posting
Subject: Re: t-an
Why is your
hat of to Ngeny? Why is he necessarily more a man of honor than Okeyo? The
decision of both the Ethiopian and Kenyan federation to create a certain time
gap between non stop European competition and Edmonton make some sense, and
the entire Kenyan team but Ngeny (well off-form, so
Not a bad idea, considering that Lagat might be the only Kenyan with some
chance of nipping the Spaniards for the bronze Medal (assuming El Gerrouzh
wins and Saidi-S places second. I feel far more certain about the former
than the latter).
UG
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[ma
Also because of how she looked (and sounded...) in Seoul.
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Contopoulos
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: 10.49 vs 19.32
Two things... comparatively
Thanks for
this info. Do note, though, that Gaby Szabo's "tremendous Kick" is being laughed
off weekly by the Russian trio, recently...
UG
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I wish you luck, but viewing them as medal contenders given Saidi-Sieff,
El-Gerrouzh, Rottich, Ngeny, Mourhit, Kipketer, Limo, Mezgebu, Smail Sghir,
Gebresillasi and all the other Kenyans, Moroccans and Ethiopians? Seems like
a dream.
UG
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His falling under the subway was widely interpreted as suicide to the best
of my recollection.
Uri
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Jack Lov
World
class refereeing leads to world class track and field.
Now,
seriously, who APPOINTS these referees- or are they simply the only ones
prepared to volunteer their time?
Uri
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Hans-Erik Pettersson
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To: "David Dallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Malkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Chris
That's right. It still leaves the balance short of 300...
UG.
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From: David Dallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:40 PM
To: Uri Goldbourt, PhD
Cc: Malkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Christian Science Monitor: factual error?
Complete nonsense.
After
the Bannister-Landy "mile of the century" a954 concluded with a mere two runners
under 4 minutes (Santee I think ran no faster than 4:00.6) .
There
was a race, next, where 3 people ran 3:59 or thereabouts. Laslo Tabori was one
of them. Chataway may have been on
Scott: From this long distance (two continents and one big ocean away) , I
salute what you are doing for track and field!
Uri Goldbourt
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:26 PM
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Many of the better team do participate, but with second rate team (such as
Brazil who lost the semi finals 3:4 to Nigeria in 1996 after what had seemed
like a sure lead that made them sort of nap on the field...).
Just to recapitulate an important point concerning Cameroon's recent Olympic
final
Certainly not 12:52.2
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Brist
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 6:01 PM
To: David Dallman
Cc: William Bahnfleth; Dave Cameron; Richard McCann;
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: World XC
David,
This is an example for the way the arguments about rule changes, or 100
other topics, is sometime carried:
One (or a few) listers "KNOW for certain" that IAAF, IOC (or any other
establishment in the sports) are run by "fat, lobster-eating old men". Never
mind if Arne Liungquist (a recent culprit)
(20)
>3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (17)
>4. Ed & Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (16)
>5. "Mcewen, Brian T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (15)
>6. "Uri Goldbourt, PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (11)
>7. "Wayne T. Armbrust"
It is a good idea indeed to check statistically, whether attempts 4 and 5
have been worthless. With data in hand, replacing what we in medical
research term "clinical impression" (a notorious source of both conceptions
and misconceptions) we would be more informed.
UG
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Mats,
Thanks for expressing all my thoughts about this issue - you managed to do
this even though I have never spoken to you and do not remember ever meeting
you (I did attend the 1995 Goteborg WC and the preceding scientific
Congress, so maybe we have met there, but do not realize it).
I am cur
But why also raise the height of the hurdles? Women are on average a few
inches shorter than men and it make sense to take this into consideration
and allow them to clear lower hurdles.
UG
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Garry, you must be kidding, it was a bore which also gets the distinction of
a men's "World title" won in a time slower than the women outdoor world
record...
Uri
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Sent: Tuesday, March 13,
Come on, Arne Ljungquist is no McCarthy. You have never met Arne, have you?
. He is a previous outstanding high jumper, a physician, a thinker, a man
who loves athletics ( and loves athletes, and believe me, he despises no
one, including Americans). And nothing is further from him than witch hunt.
The idea that any amount US TV money will provoke the IOC to withdraw its
recognition of IAAF as the official governing body of athletics for Olympic
purposes (after 88 years! ) is toying with futility.
UG
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Perhaps it is just the absence of Maksim Tarasov and a couple of "Australian
ex-soviets" from this particular competition...
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed & Dana Parrot
Sent: Monday, March 12, 200
The discourse below is a built surprising, considering that the gap between
the number medals won by USA and Russia (alone!) has SHRUNK in Sydney and
that in track and field, in particular, the Russian women paper to gradually
reinstall their supremacy.
the strength of the economy is not everythi
Not only did the NCAA division III have a faster time, but this is the very
first instance (perhaps the last in a century) when a world title in a men's
event was won in a mark inferior to the WR (outdoor, admittedly) for women!!
UG
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Sorry to
write this, but this view is a bit one-sided. The IAAF is about much more than
just "protecting itself" and the USTAF has not been exactly the great guard of
democracy. Its stance apparently ahs to do more wit fear of litigations and the
involved expenses.
the same
rules should g
: Gebrselassie 10K
In a message dated Fri, 23 Feb 2001 4:24:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Uri
Goldbourt, PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
<< Seoul in 1992? Seoul was 1988, Barcelona 1992, he did not run in the
Seoul
Olympics.
UG
Geb won the 5 and 10 at the World Ju
Seoul in 1992? Seoul was 1988, Barcelona 1992, he did not run in the Seoul
Olympics.
UG
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Jimenez
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 4:27 AM
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Subject: t-and-f: Gebrselas
How about the dope-drenched wind assisted 10.49 seconds over the 100 meters
and getting that one of the books...
UG
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:16 PM
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Alexander Averbukh won, clearing 5.80 m. I think Okert Brits was second.
UG
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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 2:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: t-and-f: Donetsk results?
Given
Hi,
As an Israeli who spent his first ever sojourn overseas in Sweden:
Sjoberg is pronounced:
Shooberri
(more or less).
UG
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Carey
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:44 PM
To: R.T
"The Polish Guy" Mackoviak is a runner with major credentials over a number
of seasons over both the flat and the relays. Partial ignorance of the
non-US scene in the (long) sprints should not constitute a reason to exclude
"Polish guys".
UG
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hmmm...
Alekna! Not a bad choice at all. Probably wiser than selecting Zelezny who
certainly established an all-time greatness, but was not nearly as dominant
as Alekna this year (Drecshler among the ladies- same story).
It would be nice to see where the others ranked. I do hope Korzeniowsky was
Schildhauer was World vice-champion in 1983 and actually the second best 10K
runner after Alberto Cova, during these years.
Kunze's name was Hansjorg, rather than Hansorg, to the best of my
recollection.
UG
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Clicking- but no contact is
made...
UG
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of ConwaySent: Friday, December 29, 2000 2:53
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Re: t-and-f: Check out Statistics
Finally someone has good sense and gives Korzeniowsky the prize he clearly
deserved.
Smart choices per event as well.
UG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Post, Marty
Sent: Thursday, December 28,
ge-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Conway
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:37 PM
To: Uri Goldbourt, PhD; T-AND-F@lists. uoregon. edu
Subject: Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.
Uri wrote:
> The time of 10.07 seconds by Borzov in Munich (I saw that
From: "Uri Goldbourt, PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: German women
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:40:14 +0200
The time of 10.07 seconds by Borzov in Munich (I saw that race in p
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