Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-24 Thread Elliott Oti
From: Kurt Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mats asked us to remember: Remeber that the USSR and the GDR imported their doping science Hardly. The US is certainly not innocent in furthering doping science, but a significant majority of the synthetic steroid compounds used in doping were invented

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-24 Thread Dgs1170
So what we have surmised is that the US is blamed for everything, no matter what the reasons. Foreign athletes and scientist come to the States for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and the countries they leave blame U.S. And they say we have propaganda... BUT, you all may be correct.

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-24 Thread Elliott Oti
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so what we have surmised is that the US is blamed for everything, no matter what the reasons. Foreign athletes and scientist come to the States for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and the countries they leave blame U.S. And they

RE: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-24 Thread Steve Bennett
10.07 in 1972 with Highly Developed Training methods is pretty ordinary when you compare this to the fact that Matt Shirvington of Australia at age 20 ran 10.03 in the final of the Commonwealth Games in Kuala Lumpur into a slight headwind (-0.4). Matt at the time was still much weaker in the Gym

RE: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-24 Thread malmo
I believe he will be the first ever regular sub10.00 athletes of non-african ancestry. regards Steve Bennett http://www.oztrack.com Some of us purists still believe we're ALL of African ancestry. malmo

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-23 Thread Mats Ã…kerlind
I'm stepping in late, I realize. But anyway. I have to object to "DGS's" statement about training more than one Olympic Games (cycle) and sports regime. This somehow implies that he believes that the US sprinters have some God sent talent that would make it impossible for anybody from, say,

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-23 Thread Kurt Bray
Mats asked us to remember: Remeber that the USSR and the GDR imported their doping science Hardly. The US is certainly not innocent in furthering doping science, but a significant majority of the synthetic steroid compounds used in doping were invented by Germans. Germany has long been a

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-23 Thread ed prytherch
Kurt, There are some who think that it started in the US. In his autobiography "Big Shot", published in 1981, British shot putter Geoff Capes wrote "We cannot blame the Eastern Europeans for the prevalence of drug taking. It started in the United States. No doubt about that." and "Every thrower

RE: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-23 Thread malmo
Germany has long been a hotbed of the science of organic chemistry, and steroid chemistry during the 40s, 50s, and 60s, when most of the steroid dope was developed, is no exception. Scanning the names of the scientists and the institutions on the patents and primary publications of the

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-22 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 21 Dec 2000 4:21:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Conway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't it ironic that while only we hard core sprint fans profess to love those events .. And the general populace is crazy about distance running .. That when facilities are created to host

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-22 Thread Dan Kaplan
If you step out of the tf mindset for a moment, I think you will see that what Conway said makes perfect sense. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Conway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't it ironic that while only we hard core sprint fans profess to love those events .. And the general

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-21 Thread Dgs1170
In a message dated 12/21/00 7:49:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually Hines ran an auto timed 10.03 in his Sacramento race in 68 .. And Hayes auto time in Tokyo was 10.05 .. Nonetheless Borzov's 10.07 placed him right at the mark with the best of his time .. And even

Re: t-and-f: How good was a 10.07 100m in 1972.

2000-12-21 Thread curtis taylor
True, if Eddie Hart would have run in 72' he would have had a great shot at winning and also true that if more of our sprinters had gotten a chance to "mature" they may have run better in the future. But Borzovs' 10.07 was superior to any 10.07 run today under similar conditions and particularly