Re: [Tagging] tag groupings

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Daniel Tremblay wrote: > I've suggested a shoulder=yes/no tag.  Somebody came out with a complex > structure (probably valid) for shoulders.  Does it really have to be that > complicated? I don't know.  You, speclists, know better than me. The issue is that there

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > If it's the discussion I'm remembering, I think the debate may have > started with the tag 4wd_only, (something like that, may not be > exact).  Which had the same issues - people were debating the > questions, while my point of view is that th

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 3 August 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John Smith wrote: >> >> I can't remember what happened, and there is nothing really useful on >> the discussion page at all. > > Looks like the usual tussle between mapping at some deep semantic > level ("can you use t

Re: [Tagging] tag groupings

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Daniel Tremblay wrote: > I've suggested a shoulder=yes/no tag.  Somebody came out with a complex > structure (probably valid) for shoulders.  Does it really have to be that > complicated? I don't know.  You, speclists, know better than me. > > What are the objectiv

Re: [Tagging] Polite request for when replying.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I suspect the problem is partly that people who are only subscribed to talk@ > are replying to the discussion, which is crossposted to talk@ and tagg...@. > The tagging@ list then rejects their messages because they're not > subscribed, ca

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 2 August 2010 20:05, Dave F. wrote: >> I see - a permanent sign. >> I've no idea was this was objected to. Was the discussion on how it was to >> be tagged? > > I can't remember what happened, and there is nothing really useful on > the discu

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

On 3 August 2010 10:46, Ian Dees wrote: >> Similar hacks to what they did in Haiti I suspect, use what ever tags >> render, like camping sites, which are really refugee camps... >> > > Haiti is the antithesis of OSM tagging. Sure, the initial few hours had > tagging for the renderer, but the commu

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] emergency=*

On 3 August 2010 05:51, SomeoneElse wrote: > We've seen recently how people responding to disasters have used OSM data on > handheld devices - someone right now could quite possibly be using such a > map to try and deal with, say, the floods in Pakistan. If that map is > suddenly missing hospital

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:56 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Well, in this particular case, the issue was regional preferences about > whether to call a particular game football, association football, soccer, > etc., and the reason for using a link to an associated table was so that > multiple na

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

By the way, I am of course talking about databases in general, not OSM in specific. The analogy only goes so far when comparing to OSM, since "sport" is not a column. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

Well, in this particular case, the issue was regional preferences about whether to call a particular game football, association football, soccer, etc., and the reason for using a link to an associated table was so that multiple names could map to the same field value. ---Original Email---

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Colin Smale wrote: >  On 02/08/2010 17:28, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Anthony  wrote: >>> >>> If I wanted the list of colors to be controlled and >>> finite I'd use a check constraint. >> >> By the way, if I were going to use a separate t

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On 02/08/2010 17:28, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Anthony wrote: If I wanted the list of colors to be controlled and finite I'd use a check constraint. By the way, if I were going to use a separate table for the list of colors, for instance for performance purposes, I'd sti

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Anthony wrote: > If I wanted the list of colors to be controlled and > finite I'd use a check constraint. By the way, if I were going to use a separate table for the list of colors, for instance for performance purposes, I'd still use the name of the color as the

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:08 AM, John F. Eldredge > wrote: >> In fact, the technique of having the user select from a list of words, but >> actually storing the value as an arbitrary ID (generally numeric), is the >> recommended technique in database design.  It is called "normalizing the >> data

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 2 August 2010 20:05, Dave F. wrote: > I see - a permanent sign. > I've no idea was this was objected to. Was the discussion on how it was to > be tagged? I can't remember what happened, and there is nothing really useful on the discussion page at all. _

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 2 August 2010 20:03, Liz wrote: > Road closed signs are not always put up, but the sign that the road will be > closed by wet weather is there all year round. I don't think the report mentioned if there was signs saying the road would be closed during wet weather, but I guess that's the assump

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 02/08/2010 10:46, John Smith wrote: On 2 August 2010 19:39, Dave F. wrote: This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver ignoring signed warnings. Perhaps not the best example of what Liz was thinking of, however this is a better example: http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, John Smith wrote: > On 2 August 2010 19:39, Dave F. wrote: > > This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver > > ignoring signed warnings. So why can't the mapping system record that this warning is going to exist in wet conditions? Road closed signs are

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 2 August 2010 19:39, Dave F. wrote: > This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver ignoring > signed warnings. Perhaps not the best example of what Liz was thinking of, however this is a better example: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dry_Weather_Ro

Re: [Tagging] Road closed in wet weather

On 01/08/2010 22:17, Liz wrote: Before this list existed, the need for a dry_weather_only tag was disputed on talk. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/02/2970371.htm This has nothing to do with weather conditions, but a stupid driver ignoring signed warnings. I've use access=no &

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

On 01/07/2010 15:25, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 8:08 AM, John F. Eldredge > wrote: In fact, the technique of having the user select from a list of words, but actually storing the value as an arbitrary ID (generally numeric), is the recommended

Re: [Tagging] Polite request for when replying.

Dave F. wrote: > I'm easily confused at the best of times, & with the lengthy > discussions threads getting split up, I'm completely lost. (& from > looking at some of the replies, I suspect I'm not alone). I suspect the problem is partly that people who are only subscribed to talk@ are replyin

Re: [Tagging] Polite request for when replying.

2010/8/1 Dave F. : >  On 01/08/2010 14:22, Steve Bennett wrote: >> Fwiw, I'm using Gmail, which groups but doesn't tree-structure >> threads. So my issue is that once there are more than about 20-30 >> messages in a thread, it becomes too hard to follow the argument, so I >> just give up and move o