Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-04 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Dave F. wrote: > On 04/10/2010 23:15, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> 2010/10/4 Dave F.: >>> It should be something like: >>> building=animal_rescue_centre >> >> It can have a building tag, but I'd suggest to tag >> building= and not building= > > Could you expand o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread Stephen Hope
On 5 October 2010 07:55, Colin Smale wrote: > Let's start by splitting out static characteristics from dynamic influences > such traffic and weather. Once the static stuff (lanes, inclines, curviness > and whatever) is in there, something like TMC information can be used to add > in the realtime d

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > According to the wiki, landuse=greenfield "Describes land scheduled > for new development where there have been no buildings before". Does > this mean that any undeveloped land owned by a developer or zoned as > planned development is a gre

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/10/2010 23:15, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/4 Dave F.: animal=shelter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal This appears to be round the wrong way. might be As these types of places tend to occupy a large area, it's drawn as a closed way or even as the actual buildings

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread woll
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2010/10/4 Woll Newall : >> 'time to destination' totally incorrect, the route chosen is often wrong >> as >> well, because choosing a slightly different route would make journey >> times >> much quicker. > > > but only if not all of the drivers are using OSM i.E.

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/10/2010 23:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/4 Nathan Edgars II: On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer I believe brownfield has the connotation of something substantial having been there, like a military base or factory, that needs to be cleaned up first. so basicall

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (traffic_speed) [Was: Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]]

2010-10-04 Thread Woll Newall
I've created a proposal page on the wiki, so it can be discussed off- list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/traffic_speed Woll ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/4 Woll Newall : > 'time to destination' totally incorrect, the route chosen is often wrong as > well, because choosing a slightly different route would make journey times > much quicker. but only if not all of the drivers are using OSM i.E. the same shortcuts... cheers, Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/4 Dave F. : >> animal=shelter >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal > This appears to be round the wrong way. might be > As these types of places tend to occupy a large area, it's drawn as a closed > way or even as the actual buildings rather than a POI. a POI is not just a

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/4 Nathan Edgars II : > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer > > I believe brownfield has the connotation of something substantial > having been there, like a military base or factory, that needs to be > cleaned up first. so basically "brownfield" is about contaminations and

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread Colin Smale
On 04/10/2010 22:30, John F. Eldredge wrote: On 10/04/2010 05:51 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: On 2010-10-04 at 10:57:19 +0100, Woll Newall wrote: I wouldn't use 'average speed' for the tag, because it implies something else, but that's what the OP chose for this thread. 'traffic speed' or

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > actually I put brownfield because there is already a building (seems > to fit to the wiki definition), but I'm not sufficiently familiar with > anglo-saxon construction terminology to decide whether this is the > right term in this conte

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2010-10-04 at 10:57:19 +0100, Woll Newall wrote: > I wouldn't use 'average speed' for the tag, because it implies something > else, but that's what the OP chose for this thread. 'traffic speed' or > something like that would be better. I'm not a native speaker, so any improvement on the tag n

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread Woll Newall
I'm talking about speeds that can be consistently measured, whether because of consistent rush hour conditions or other factors. I wouldn't use 'average speed' for the tag, because it implies something else, but that's what the OP chose for this thread. 'traffic speed' or something like tha

[Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread Nathan Edgars II
According to the wiki, landuse=greenfield "Describes land scheduled for new development where there have been no buildings before". Does this mean that any undeveloped land owned by a developer or zoned as planned development is a greenfield? If so, should a bug be filed on trac to render it less o

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/4 Sean Horgan : > I was just thinking about adding animal to the social facility feature > proposal: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility > We use the "for" subtag to specify who the facility would be used by.  A > natural extension would be animal: > > soc

Re: [Tagging] What exactly is a greenfield?

2010-10-04 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/4 Nathan Edgars II : > According to the wiki, landuse=greenfield "Describes land scheduled > for new development where there have been no buildings before". Does > this mean that any undeveloped land owned by a developer or zoned as > planned development is a greenfield? I would say any l

Re: [Tagging] Doorgetrokken middenstreep

2010-10-04 Thread Colin Smale
Oops, sorry, wrong list! On 04/10/2010 00:41, Colin Smale wrote: Sinds kort bestaat de N201 tussen Vinkeveen en de A2 nu (in OSM) uit twee wegen met oneway=yes, alsof het gescheiden weghelften zouden zijn. Ik heb altijd begrepen dat alleen fysieke afscheidingen tellen (zie [1]), en die zijn

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 03/10/2010 21:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: THere is a proposal: animal=shelter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal Hi This appears to be round the wrong way. As these types of places tend to occupy a large area, it's drawn as a closed way or even as the actual buildings rather