Am 10. April 2012 22:01 schrieb Komяpa :
> In Minsk, we've come to agreement that highway=* are just routing
> lines, with highway=footway as a part of routing graph for
> pedestrians, and highway=cycleway - for cyclists.
>
> It's possible to have pedestrian routing without separate ways for
> side
2012/4/11 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Am 10. April 2012 22:01 schrieb Komяpa :
>> In Minsk, we've come to agreement that highway=* are just routing
>> lines, with highway=footway as a part of routing graph for
>> pedestrians, and highway=cycleway - for cyclists.
>> It's possible to have pedestrian rou
Am 11. April 2012 10:49 schrieb Komяpa :
> First, there are road behaviour rules, that basically disallow that.
> You MUST go to crossing to cross a road here.
you can't asume this to be a global law. In other countries (e.g.
Germany or Italy) you must use a pedestrian crossing if it is close to
Am 11. April 2012 11:35 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer :
> Another similar issue is that with these sidewalks people often don't
> connect crossing footways to the street, they only connect them to the
> sidewalk. There are examples for this also in your area, so
> unfortunately simply omitting them w
I'm pushing this one up because we have taken no action so far. Can we
agree how we want to deal with this?
here is the full thread:
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Wikifiddling-surface-cobblestone-vs-sett-amp-paving-stones-tt5498912.html#none
cheers,
Martin
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Am 10. April 2012 20:55 schrieb John Sturdy :
> (1) a "payment:cards" key, intended specifically for use with the
> value "no", to indicate that a shop / pub / whatever doesn't take
> electronic payment;
the mostly used keys are:
payment:credit_cards
payment:account_cards
> (2) a "payment:other
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> Am 10. April 2012 22:01 schrieb Komяpa :
>> It's possible to have pedestrian routing without separate ways for
>> sidewalks, but it's nicer when it shows you where you can actually
>> cross the road.
> The thing is that you can generall
I am wondering what happens where there are no crossings, or outside of built
up areas where there are no sidewalks.
Phil
On 11/04/2012 11:32 John Sturdy wrote:
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> Am 10. April 2012 22:01 schrieb Komяpa :
>> It's possible to have pede
You also need:
payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi and lidl.
Phil
On 11/04/2012 11:09 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 10. April 2012 20:55 schrieb John Sturdy :
> (1) a "payment:cards" key, intended specifically for use with the
> value "no", to indicate that a shop / pub / whatever doesn'
Da: Martin Koppenhoefer
A: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
Inviato: Mercoledì 11 Aprile 2012 11:35
Oggetto: Re: [Tagging] sidewalks and tagging for the renderer
Am 11. April 2012 10:49 schrieb Komяpa :
> First, there are road behaviour rules, t
I've been clearing up some routing bugs reported in my area on Mapdust.
Some of them are valid errors, and I've fixed them. Some I'm not so sure
about.
In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider and
becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came alon
2012/4/11 :
> You also need:
>
> payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi and lidl.
Would you mind to clarify that? Debit cards
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debit_card) are accepted in most shops,
not only Lidl. I'm not sure I understood what you meant.
Thanks,
Simone
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In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider
and becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came
along one of the one way sections, then turned about 340 degrees to go
down the other side of the road. It may be legal to do a u-turn there,
but I don't th
2012/4/11 Ross Scanlon :
>> In one case there is a road where a two way section comes to a divider
>> and becomes two one way sections for a while. The suggested route came
>> along one of the one way sections, then turned about 340 degrees to go
>> down the other side of the road. It may be legal
Debit cards are accepted in most shops, but not usually accepted in pubs.
The point I was making is that Aldi and Lidl accept debit cards but not credit
cards.
Phil
On 11/04/2012 13:10 Simone Saviolo wrote:
2012/4/11 :
> You also need:
>
> payment:debit_cards for shops such as aldi and lidl.
No. The router should know not to do this. Likewise as below the router
should not make u turns at traffic lights.
Based on what? How does the router know that the two ways are two
carriageways of a single road? Couldn't they be a straight road, that
becomes a oneway street at a certain point,
I should add that the most useful key would be:
cards_accepted:amex
As a general rule, everywhere accepts debit cards, non-foodie pubs are cash
only.
The helpful tag would be amex as so few places accept it, and all of my
business expenses should be on my corporate amex card, usual routine is t
2012/4/11 Ross Scanlon :
>>> No. The router should know not to do this. Likewise as below the router
>>> should not make u turns at traffic lights.
>>
>>
>> Based on what? How does the router know that the two ways are two
>> carriageways of a single road? Couldn't they be a straight road, that
>>
On 10/04/12 06:12, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> On 4/9/2012 9:33 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> On 3/29/2012 7:01 AM, Heinrich Knauf wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> infoware GmbH, Bonn, Germany, and Geofabrik GmbH, Karlsruhe, Germany,
>>> have developed an
>>> improved tagging scheme for TMC data which we w
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> Am 11. April 2012 10:49 schrieb Komяpa :
>> First, there are road behaviour rules, that basically disallow that.
>> You MUST go to crossing to cross a road here.
>
> you can't asume this to be a global law. In other countries (e.g.
> Ge
On 11.04.2012 02:04, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> On 4/10/2012 4:38 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote:
>> A sidewalk=left/right/both fails when you want to define the relative
>> ordering, and separate footway=cycleway fail in practice because no
>> renderer is actually able to puzzle the highway back together f
On 4/11/2012 4:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If sidewalks were tagged without the highway tag, routing would
continue to work like it does for everybody
Except when a motorway has a sidewalk.
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Clearly the change that was made was disruptive and changes the
meaning of the 80,000 or so surface=cobblestone tags already in
existence. I have thus changed the definition back and commented out
surface=sett for the moment.
Now, some issues with introducing sett:
1) No one knows what "sett" mean
On 11 April 2012 22:12, Ross Scanlon wrote:
Likewise as below the router should not make u turns at traffic lights.
>
I don't have a problem with this, except we then are going to need some way
to tag "U-turn allowed" to mark the cases where you are allowed to turn.
These are generally traffic
Am 11. April 2012 14:54 schrieb :
> I should add that the most useful key would be:
>
> cards_accepted:amex
Please, read the mails, the OP already linked to the wiki page with
definitions for these and for debit cards:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Payment
The problem was: "there's no conc
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 13:28 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 4/11/2012 4:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > If sidewalks were tagged without the highway tag, routing would
> > continue to work like it does for everybody
>
> Except when a motorway has a sidewalk.
Do motorways ever have a side
On 4/11/2012 7:17 PM, Philip Barnes wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 13:28 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 4/11/2012 4:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If sidewalks were tagged without the highway tag, routing would
continue to work like it does for everybody
Except when a motorway has a sidew
Am 11.04.2012 11:35, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
in the case of parallel ways it is impossible to tell whether you can
filter them out or not (there could be a separation or they could be
on different height levels), especially if people are mapping
sidewalks the same as separated footways.
Th
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 19:50 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> On 4/11/2012 7:17 PM, Philip Barnes wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 13:28 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> >> On 4/11/2012 4:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >>> If sidewalks were tagged without the highway tag, routing would
> >>> co
Am 11.04.2012 12:47, schrieb p...@trigpoint.me.uk:
I am wondering what happens where there are no crossings, or outside of built
up areas where there are no sidewalks.
That's quite easy:
Where there are no crossings - no crossings can be used, any routing
will use the nearest point approach
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
> The term motorway implies a lot of rules,
> No Pedestrians.
> No Cyclists.
>
Not necessarily. In some US states you can legally bike on the freeway.
Wyoming is one of them: 'Although bicyclists are discouraged from riding on
interstate hig
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