[Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! Lately I was mapping features along motorways, including speed limits. Some of them are displayed on electronic signs, but usually only change in case of traffic jams, accidents, dangerous weather conditions, ... and so on. Now should these really be tagged with maxspeed=signals? All of them

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: All of them showed 100. And under normal circumstances they will always show 100. The tag maxspeed=signals doesn't carry any useful information in this situation How about the default_maxspeed tag, which is already

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/06/2012 11:43, Martin Vonwald wrote: Lately I was mapping features along motorways, including speed limits. Some of them are displayed on electronic signs, but usually only change in case of traffic jams... All of them showed 100. And under normal circumstances they will always show 100.

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Philip Barnes
I was going to point you at the M6 around Walsall, but having looked at it I am even more confused. Some ways are tagged maxspeed 70mph, some are tagged as maxspeed signals, and a section is 110kmh which is clearly very wrong. I will correct and email the mapper. Am not sure of purely using

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Do we need a separate tag such as limit = variable, maxspeed = 70mph. At present there is a note about active traffic management but I assume is ignored by routers. Actually I think we do need a different tagging and also some different

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/26 John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com: As far as I know, variable speed limits tend to be used in areas prone to heavy congestion The last two weekends I drove on the A9 and S6 in Austria. The electronic speed signs there are used mainly to lower the speed limit in case of bad weather.

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 26.06.2012 14:41, schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2012/6/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Do we need a separate tag such as limit = variable, maxspeed = 70mph. At present there is a note about active traffic management but I assume is ignored by routers. Actually I think we do need a

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/6/26 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: I would prefer to allow (not require) an additional unit information (mph, km/h) Sorry - my writing was misleading. Of course the unit should be allowed! * A different tag should be used if the speed limit is somehow managed, maybe

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/06/2012 12:39, David Earl wrote: On 26/06/2012 11:43, Martin Vonwald wrote: Lately I was mapping features along motorways, including speed limits. Some of them are displayed on electronic signs, but usually only change in case of traffic jams... All of them showed 100. And under normal

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: Why do I think that maxspeed=signals is a bad idea? Because it doesn't carry a lot of useful information. The speed limit is especially important to routing applications. For such an application maxspeed=signals is no

[Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
The Blue Flag is a voluntary eco-label awarded to 3849 beaches and marinas in 46 countries across Europe, South Africa, Morocco, Tunisia, New Zealand, Brazil, Canada and the Caribbean. More about it here: http://www.blueflag.org I suggest a fee_blue_flag=yes tag which should be used in

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com The Blue Flag is a voluntary eco-label awarded to 3849 beaches and marinas in 46 countries across Europe, South Africa, Morocco, Tunisia, New Zealand, Brazil, Canada and the Caribbean. More about it here: http://www.blueflag.org I suggest a

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jun 26, 2012 5:41 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: Why do I think that maxspeed=signals is a bad idea? Because it doesn't carry a lot of useful information. The speed limit is especially important to routing applications. For such an application maxspeed=signals is no

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jun 26, 2012 5:47 AM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: As far as I know, variable speed limits tend to be used in areas prone to heavy congestion, so routing applications should probably assume it's a slow road (at least during the daytime). In the US, the most common variable speed

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Paul Johnson
On Jun 26, 2012 6:03 AM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: I would prefer to allow (not require) an additional unit information (mph, km/h), simply to encourage data consumers to deal with them as they are usually added by users. On the other hand no data consumer can be sure

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
I would prefer to allow (not require) an additional unit information (mph, km/h), simply to encourage data consumers to deal with them as they are usually added by users. On the other hand no data consumer can be sure about a (global) default unit if there's no unit given. I thought it was

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Michael Krämer
Hello, 2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com I suggest a fee_blue_flag=yes tag which should be used in combination with leisure=beach_resort or leisure=marina. This could be useful for easy searching of well equipped, maintained and clean beaches and marinas for tourists. And it's a nice

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread John Sturdy
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: In the US, the most common variable speed limit scenario is a school zone. Rules for when the lower limit applies varies.  Some are certain hours of the day and only on school days, others are year round whenever children

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Michael Krämer ohr...@googlemail.com Hello, 2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com I suggest a fee_blue_flag=yes tag which should be used in combination with leisure=beach_resort or leisure=marina. This could be useful for easy searching of well equipped, maintained and clean

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com However, as far as I know, the Blue Flag is awarded on a Commune basis, so I don't think it would be ok to tag a marina or a beach resort. For example, in Italy, Varazze is traditionally a Blue Flag city, and no beach in the Commune's

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com 2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com However, as far as I know, the Blue Flag is awarded on a Commune basis, so I don't think it would be ok to tag a marina or a beach resort. For example, in Italy, Varazze is traditionally a Blue Flag

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Yes, actually every beach is marked with the blue flag. However, it is not relative to a single resort. Also, signs usually say Varazze Bandiera Blu d'Europa without referring specifically to any limited area. Ciao, Simone Maybe all the

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-26 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Martin, Am Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012, 12:43:10 schrieb Martin Vonwald: The tag maxspeed=signals doesn't carry any useful information in this situation. If I tag those speed limits with this tag we completely lose the information that on this part(s) of the motorway one usually can drive

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/6/26 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com 2012/6/26 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Yes, actually every beach is marked with the blue flag. However, it is not relative to a single resort. Also, signs usually say Varazze Bandiera Blu d'Europa without referring specifically to