Re: [Tagging] opening-hours: how to code "always but..."? Syntax diagram.

Hi, Thanks for your replies. On 2013-10-19 22:54, Janko Mihelić wrote : > I think the best solution for your problem is: > > 24/7;Fr 00:00-14:00,22:00-24:00 > > I wouldn't use "off", I'm not sure a lot of data consumers consider it. > OK, I changed the diagram to accept 24/7 that way. But not usi

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

You miss the point, Martin. "I use hotels, apartments and an occassional B&B a lot and in many different countries. The name people use for their accommodation is inconsistent at best. I think the best way to tackle this is to use sub-keys to define the facilities on offer." In other words,

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013/10/19 Frank Little > As others have pointed out, bicycle=no may have also been used by mappers > to exclude bicycles not just to exclude cycling; I'd say we can't know what > people meant (though I imagine mostly it will have had the meaning of 'no > cycling'). > shall we really question t

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

2013/10/19 Frank Little > I use hotels, apartments and an occassional B&B a lot and in many > different countries. > The name people use for their accommodation is inconsistent at best. > yes, that's why we are defining what the osm tags are about... cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

On 2013-10-19 22:37, Philip Barnes wrote : > On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 22:13 +0200, Christoph Hormann wrote: >> On Saturday 19 October 2013, Jonathan wrote: >>> It seems a river is something that has a source and a mouth (either >>> where it joins the sea, lake or a larger river). So I would say that

Re: [Tagging] opening-hours: how to code "always but..."? Syntax diagram.

If I understand the opening_hours wiki page correctly you're missing a semicolon and the correct input should be: opening_hours=24/7; Fr 14:00-22:00 off Does that work? Alternatively, omitting the 24/7 part would be correct as it's implied if the off range is not preceded by anything opening

Re: [Tagging] opening-hours: how to code "always but..."? Syntax diagram.

I think the best solution for your problem is: 24/7;Fr 00:00-14:00,22:00-24:00 I wouldn't use "off", I'm not sure a lot of data consumers consider it. Janko 2013/10/19 André Pirard > Hi, > > I've had multiple difficulties described > herecoding a

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 22:13 +0200, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Saturday 19 October 2013, Jonathan wrote: > > > > It seems a river is something that has a source and a mouth (either > > where it joins the sea, lake or a larger river). So I would say that > > only streams that have been named "Riv

[Tagging] opening-hours: how to code "always but..."? Syntax diagram.

Hi, I've had multiple difficulties described here coding a simple opening-hours "always except one period". OpeningHoursEdit bugs and not finding how to represent "always" after reading the whole lot several times. Normally, always is 24/7 but I suspect

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

Presence or absence of a kitchen for the traveller does not define for me whether it is a guest house or not. I've stayed in places in Egypt and Pakistan which our company certainly called 'the guest house' which had kitchens. They did not have live-in owners or staff (but did have people to prep

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

On Saturday 19 October 2013, Jonathan wrote: > > It seems a river is something that has a source and a mouth (either > where it joins the sea, lake or a larger river). So I would say that > only streams that have been named "River " or "The River ..." > should ever be tagged as a river, everyt

Re: [Tagging] tourism=guest_house or tourism=bed_and_breakfast ?

+1 to that. Just returned from a week's stay in a short-let apartment in Brussels, which was certainly completely different from the hotels, guest houses or bed & breakfast places I could have stayed in (and I chose it specifically for that reason). This was a single apartment; I've often stayed

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

As others have pointed out, bicycle=no may have also been used by mappers to exclude bicycles not just to exclude cycling; I'd say we can't know what people meant (though I imagine mostly it will have had the meaning of 'no cycling'). I looked to the wiki for clarity on usage, but the Bicycle

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

Ah, but in England we have some Streams that are bigger than Rivers. Stream is sometimes used when a river divides into a number of channels, and some Rivers retain that name even in their upper reaches when they are pretty small (and easily jumpable). So you can't always rely on the name. On Sa

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

2013/10/19 Jonathan > It seems a river is something that has a source and a mouth (either where > it joins the sea, lake or a larger river). So I would say that only > streams that have been named "River " or "The River ..." should ever be > tagged as a river, everything else is a stream.

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

As ever this is an interesting question, when is a river not a river, when it's a stream? Or when is a stream not a stream, when it's a river? Reading some articles: http://water.usgs.gov/wsc/glossary.html#Stream and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River I

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream

I think the whole issue should be split into two separate questions: The verifiability of the rule and the rule itself. As far as verifiability is concerned - it seems the question how far an able person can jump is not an issue here. As i said before i would interpret the rule from a practic

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream. Was [Imports] [NUUG kart] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

On 19.10.2013 14:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2013/10/19 Tyrfing mailto:tyrfing...@gmail.com>> > > Using "if an able person can jump it" as the rule has some issues. > > > > +1, it also depends heavily on the surroundings (surface, steepness, > solidity of the riverbank, ...) if you

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream. Was [Imports] [NUUG kart] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

2013/10/19 Tyrfing > Using "if an able person can jump it" as the rule has some issues. +1, it also depends heavily on the surroundings (surface, steepness, solidity of the riverbank, ...) if you can effective jump over it, just a small width doesn't tell you anything if this is a barrier to a

Re: [Tagging] Waterway river vs stream. Was [Imports] [NUUG kart] kartverket imports to OpenStreetMap

Having a river run into a stream seems strange (unless something (like a drain or evaporation) reduce the amount of water in the river), or the river is split into several streams. I'm repeating some of my arguments from the import list, hopefully to get some discussion on how to use these tags fr