Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Dave Swarthout
I always thought the meaning of noexit=yes was very clear. Obviously there is some confusion I was not aware of. If a highway ends with no way to continue, the final node is tagged with noexit=yes. I only use it if I am sure there is no way forward from the end of the particular way. As someone who

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-04 17:35, Pieren wrote : > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira > wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote: >>> If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a >>> for validator checks in JOSM, as we have more than 100,000 ways with >

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2014-04-04 Thread Jo
OK, I didn't check. Maybe I consulted the wiki at the wrong point in time and got it wrong for the past 6 years. Polyglot 2014-04-04 17:53 GMT+02:00 fly : > On 03.12.2013 17:08, Jo wrote: > > Or possibly somebody changed the meaning of the tag on the wiki, without > > telling dinosaurs like myse

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Jo
I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't put it into words properly. If 40% of noexit tags are on ways, this is meaningful, not some sort of accident. FWIW I also prefer to put the tag on the way, I don't care about the gratification that it gets rendered with a nifty icon in JOSM when put on a

Re: [Tagging] noexit

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 03.12.2013 17:08, Jo wrote: > Or possibly somebody changed the meaning of the tag on the wiki, without > telling dinosaurs like myself. At first it was a tag that went on ways > which are a dead end for cars. The wiki history tells a different story. > It got an icon in JOSM when put on nodes

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 04.04.2014 17:35, Pieren wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira > wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote: > >>> If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a >>> for validator checks in JOSM, as we have more than 100,000 ways with

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote: >> If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna ask a >> for validator checks in JOSM, as we have more than 100,000 ways with >> this tag. > Basically I agree with the cu

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread John Packer
> > I also can't see why, but people also use noexit=no > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/noexit#values > noexit=no is the same as fixme=continue I believe fixme=continue should be favored since it actually appears in QA Tools and in JOSM 2014-04-04 11:56 GMT-03:00 André Pirard : > On 20

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-04-04 16:14, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote : > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote: >> On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly wrote: Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? >>> The way has one side that has/is an exit :-) >>> Tagging the

Re: [Tagging] noexit, aka "noexit=yes on ways ?"

2014-04-04 Thread André Pirard
Hi, Following a long dated thread, dormant draft here, what is said in the wiki article and now clarified... We now agree, Georg. It seems that this tag is one of the most understood one, and I have modified the wiki with a warning ahead so that the reader read more that the first phrase and a ch

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:54 AM, fly wrote: > On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly wrote: >>> Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? >> >> The way has one side that has/is an exit :-) >> Tagging the whole way as "noexit=yes" seems strange. > > If it is

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-04-04 14:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > what about the tag "sells"? It is not used very often right now: > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sells > but could be a universal way to indicate selling particularities > +1 I like sells=* more than baby_goods=*. That way a shop=spor

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ?

2014-04-04 Thread fly
On 03.04.2014 21:22, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, fly wrote: >> Is noexit=yes useful on ways ? > > The way has one side that has/is an exit :-) > Tagging the whole way as "noexit=yes" seems strange. If it is accepted, I gonna hange the wiki accordingly and gonna

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
Richard Welty wrote: and if you are not sure about the extent of the structure or its nature there's no harm in nipping out a short section, setting layer=1 and skipping the other tagging (bridge=yes or whatever.) you have accurately represented what you know and maintained correct topology. .

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 4/4/14 5:51 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > Stop saying GPS. Forget even about aerial imagery. When I had no aerial > imagery in my area, I either did not draw such features (leaving them for > future improvements), or approximate. "The road there is about 6 meters > wide, so I'll draw two nodes abo

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-04-04 12:05 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you > preserve full detail, and you also accomodate data consumers that don't > know about stroller shops. what about the tag "sells"? It is not used very often right now: ht

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Dave Swarthout
I never heard the term pushchair in any American context. In fact, this is the first time I've ever seen it. We use stroller, or if you're old enough, walker, when we talk about conveyances for small babies. Nowadays walkers are those wheeled frames that help older or disabled folks get around but

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Apr 4, 2014 11:44 AM, "SomeoneElse" wrote: > > André Riedel wrote: >> >> At the moment "stroller" is used for ramps or ways as access condition. >> > > But it's ambiguous, even in American. It's a noun meaning "pushchair" only in American; in both English AND American it means "a person going

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hi, Almost same discussion when I try to define baby care tagging. :) (sorry for my inactive status.) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/babycare Baby care tagging is still under RFC, so I'll change my proposal as the result of this discussion. BTW, +1 to subtag scheme f

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Steve Doerr
And it appears John Lewis department stores sell strollers: http://www.johnlewis.com/search/strollers Steve On 04/04/2014 11:36, André Riedel wrote: At the moment "stroller" is used for ramps or ways as access condition. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=stroller 2014-04-04 12:25 GMT

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread SomeoneElse
André Riedel wrote: At the moment "stroller" is used for ramps or ways as access condition. But it's ambiguous, even in American. It's a noun meaning "pushchair" only in American; in both English AND American it means "a person going for a walk". I can't comment on other English variants (

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread André Riedel
At the moment "stroller" is used for ramps or ways as access condition. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=stroller 2014-04-04 12:25 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes : > Strollers are, I think, called pushchairs in English. > > > shop=baby_goods > > baby_goods=push_chairs > > > Phil (trigpoint) > >

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Strollers are, I think, called pushchairs in English. shop=baby_goods baby_goods=push_chairs Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 04/04/2014 11:05 Matthijs Melissen wrote: Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you preserve full detail, and you also a

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Personally I would use shop=baby_goods, baby_goods=strollers. That way you preserve full detail, and you also accomodate data consumers that don't know about stroller shops. -- Matthijs On 4 Apr 2014 10:50, "André Riedel" wrote: > Should I tag a shop, where I can buy a baby strollers (and only >

Re: [Tagging] simple_brunnel : one node bridge like xing highway over waterway

2014-04-04 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-04-03 22:42 GMT+02:00 Richard Z. : > > Don't dismiss that argument so casually. The current rule is that the > > way below the bridge should not share a node with the bridge itself. > > the current idea that culverts float bellow roads without having anything > common with them is not correct

[Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread André Riedel
Should I tag a shop, where I can buy a baby strollers (and only strollers, nothing more) as shop=baby_goods ? Or is it better to use shop=stroller ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dbaby_goods ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap