Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 18/set/2014, alle ore 07:57, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at ha scritto: Say, how does landcover=grass differ from surface=grass? I agree that in this case it doesn't make a difference, besides that surface is typically used as an attribute for highways and not as a feature

Re: [Tagging] Personal Keys for WikiProject, Survey Data for Import

2014-09-18 Thread Alex Rollin
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: That is really poor idea. IMHO remembering location and object type should be enough to identify it. OK, I'm game: let us say it is a node with an amenity and name tag attached. Let us also say that the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Andreas Labres
On 18.09.14 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: from landuse, meadow would imply grass for me Meadow IMO means there is some usage taken from the grass/hay (Weide, Futterwiese,...). I use landuse=grass in urban areas (Grünstreifen am Straßenrand), for grass areas that are not a garden but there

Re: [Tagging] Personal Keys for WikiProject, Survey Data for Import

2014-09-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.09.2014 um 08:35 schrieb Alex Rollin: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: That is really poor idea. IMHO remembering location and object type should be enough to identify it. OK, I'm game: let us say it is a node with an amenity and name

Re: [Tagging] Personal Keys for WikiProject, Survey Data for Import

2014-09-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
The biggest problem with ids is that it may degenerate into cases where single objects has a giant list of various ids. 2014-09-18 9:17 GMT+02:00 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Am 18.09.2014 um 08:35 schrieb Alex Rollin: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mateusz Konieczny

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! 2014-09-17 23:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: We (in Polish forum) think, that changing landuse=grass into natural=grass would make better tagging scheme, since grass is seldom a landuse (like the tree is natural=tree, not the amenity or something else). How do you find this idea?

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 18/set/2014, alle ore 09:30, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com ha scritto: Not good. Contrary to other people I think that the readability of tags is most important, otherwise we could simply use tags like ptn=pnx or road=flying_saucer and define that those tags mean

Re: [Tagging] Personal Keys for WikiProject, Survey Data for Import

2014-09-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Alex Rollin alex.rol...@gmail.com wrote: How do I know/get-notified it was changed? Specifically, how would you setup a system to receive notification that the object was changed? Have you done it? Do you have some scripts to share? (Can I please NOT have

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: 1. I thought the general consensus was to start using landcover for this type of object. No consensus. I strongly oppose landcover=* in view of its weak definition, and because it invents nothing new. Say, how does

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Andreas Labres
On 18.09.14 09:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: wouldn't these be better tagged with road or highway as landuse values? Typically they are part of the road. We probably misunderstand us... This here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.20528/16.22363 In the south are Böschungen to the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Andreas Labres
On 18.09.14 09:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: wouldn't these be better tagged with road or highway as landuse values? Typically they are part of the road. We probably misunderstand us... This here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.20528/16.22363 In the south are Böschungen to the

Re: [Tagging] landuse=grass = natural=grass

2014-09-18 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 18.09.2014 08:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Il giorno 18/set/2014, alle ore 07:57, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at ha scritto: Say, how does landcover=grass differ from surface=grass? I agree that in this case it doesn't make a difference, besides that surface is typically used as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-18 Thread Lukas Sommer
So far, highway=traffic_signal is only defined for nodes and there are only few ways and fewer relations. Correct. Also in favour of separation I would prefer to use junction=* with name=* and only highway=traffic_signal with name if it is only a single light (e.g. the case with a named

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-18 Thread johnw
in OSM we focus on ground truth and having a local (!) community taking care of the data and keeping it in shape. The expected iconography differs between countries, as they are shown on maps differently in the different countries. At least comparing Japan to America, what they expect to be

Re: [Tagging] What's the difference in these tags?

2014-09-18 Thread fly
Am 17.09.2014 09:29, schrieb Mateusz Konieczny: 2014-09-17 1:59 GMT+02:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com mailto:bry...@obviously.com: I map contraflow as dual carriageway, to avoid this issue. Both sides get oneway=yes, plus a full list of the modes allowed (psv, bicycle,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-18 Thread fly
Am 18.09.2014 16:07, schrieb Lukas Sommer: So far, highway=traffic_signal is only defined for nodes and there are only few ways and fewer relations. Correct. Also in favour of separation I would prefer to use junction=* with name=* and only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-18 Thread fly
Am 18.09.2014 21:29, schrieb fly: Am 18.09.2014 16:07, schrieb Lukas Sommer: So far, highway=traffic_signal is only defined for nodes and there are only few ways and fewer relations. Correct. Also in favour of separation I would prefer to use junction=* with name=*

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tagging for complex junctions or traffic signals that are named

2014-09-18 Thread Lukas Sommer
Okay, if I get you right, you want to add to every element with the tag highway=traffic_signals and the tag name=* also another new tag, either – highway=junction or – junction=traffic_signals and the presence or absence of this tag shall influence the rendering? * Here, I still do not see your

Re: [Tagging] The not-shops: industrial, industry, or business

2014-09-18 Thread John F. Eldredge
Agreed. The general-purpose renderings, at least those intended for small-screen use, should use a limited number of icons, and those should each apply to a range of related object types. Large-screen and printed maps can use a wider range of icon types, since there is room for a map legend.