Re: [Tagging] patron saints

> Am 25.01.2015 um 17:29 schrieb Friedrich Volkmann : > > but the patron saint is "Maria > Heimsuchung". Well, I don't know if a saint named "Maria Heimsuchung" really > existed, but the church is dedicated to her, so it's a patron saint at least > in an abstract sense. I am not sure if you

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 2015-01-26 01:39, Friedrich Volkmann wrote : > On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >> On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer wrote: >>> And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the >>> documentation. Things like – use always (or use never) “Saint”: >>> “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

On 26/01/2015 12:44 PM, johnw wrote: Or does this go back to it should be "shop:jewelry=watches" or "shop=jewelry + jewelry=watches " problem? Javbw If so, then lets try to decide on a flat or categorized system that can handle new additions without a lot of hemming and hawing every time a n

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Vincent Pottier wrote: > > dedication +1 If we’re going to make something that goes with the religion tag, we might want to make it more universal. There are different shrines for different kinds of buddhas, Different various shinto gods, and something having

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

If watch(es) is the best description for a store (as it may just be a watch retail sales shop - no repair or other jewelry) - then what is the problem for creating a shop=* tag for it? There will be a ton of shop=* tags eventually - especially as the world is filled with speciality shops that ba

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

FYI: Shops selling watches can still be found in Thailand although most are probably sold in the watch department of the bigger department stores. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:30 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > On January 25, 2015 9:01:44 AM CST, Friedrich Volkmann > wrote: >> >> On 25.01.2015 11:46

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

On January 25, 2015 9:01:44 AM CST, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 25.01.2015 11:46, Severin Menard wrote: > > I did not find anything on the Map Features regarding shop selling > watches, > > what is quite common both in Europe and South America (at least). > > shop=jewelry > > Watches came out

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 25.01.2015 23:30, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer wrote: >> And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the >> documentation. Things like >> – use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”. That's a good point. In German, there are name vari

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it seems to be a common suggestion for this purpose in Italian discussions about churches, I really thought we had more of them. Anyway, as you can see there are a few al

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

2015-01-24 1:07 GMT+01:00 Christian Quest : > > Le 22/01/2015 22:49, Johan C a écrit : > > Good to have this discussion. From a computer expert point-of-view > > relations are fantastic for data integrity and to keep database size > > low. From an OSM point-of-view, which includes being friendly t

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Le 25/01/2015 13:00, Andreas Goss a écrit : Fully borken or not. In my opinion a assiciatedstreet relation that does not include every element is broken. At that point all the advantages are gone. associatedStreet is not multypolygon ! A lack in the outer of a multipolygon is a gap and brake

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 1/26/15, Lukas Sommer wrote: > I think this can be a useful new tag. > > And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the > documentation. Things like > – use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”. > – write the name of the dedication always in the local langua

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

On 25/01/2015, Andreas Goss wrote: > Fully borken or not. In my opinion a assiciatedstreet relation that does > not include every element is broken. At that point all the advantages > are gone. To me "breaking the relation" would mean that all the addresses it contains are now unusable. In your e

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

On 25/01/2015, Marc Gemis wrote: > My experience is that it is very hard to place every house in the right > relation before you know the actual address. Especially with corner houses > and in rural areas where the driveways to the farms do not always connect > to the street with the address. > An

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

I think this can be a useful new tag. And I think it makes sense to define explicitly some things in the documentation. Things like – use always (or use never) “Saint”: “Saint Paul” vs “Paul”. – write the name of the dedication always in the local language (Or always in latin? Could become very co

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Le 22/01/2015 16:14, Vincent Pottier a écrit : UK ~9000 PL ~1700 CZ ~ 100 HU ~ 130 SE

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

Le 25/01/2015 17:20, Steve Doerr a écrit : In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This can include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously not saints. I would prefer the "dedication" rather than a "patron", for, as said above, the dedication may be a "m

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 25.01.2015 19:07, André Pirard wrote: > I think that, when they have a name=* tag (when the mapper cared to find it, > easy, they're all here (unités pastorales) ), > almost all churches around here are tagged with the dedication. Looking at Liège in OSM, I see names l

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Hi all - does anyone know what the geographic distribution of associatedStreet is like? taginfo doesn't render a map (it seems it doesn't do that for relations). I hear rumours it's mainly Germany but it'd be handy to know. Wambacher posted some maps in the Forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 2015-01-25 17:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote : > Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated > to patron saints. > E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is > obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, th

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

But wat is local in the global context of OSM? It seems that, as far as Belgium is concerned, I'm the only one with an interest to keep using them. I do think they add some value, especially in a bilingual context like in Brussels. But if I'm the only one in the whole (small) country, who am I to

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 25/01/2015 16:27, Tod Fitch wrote: On Jan 25, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This can include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously not saints. -- Steve I know nothing about who churches are dedicat

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 16:20 +, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 25/01/2015 16:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > > I'd like to suggest a new key for patron saints. Certainly patron_saint=* or > > just patron=*. There are some occurrences in Taginfo, although most values > > of patron=* do not look like

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

It'll be interesting to see how the German community handles this as an excercise for other communities. I think that handling this in a local way is the right move. - Serge On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Jo wrote: > > >> Sometimes I remove stuff by accident realize it later and instead of go

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On Jan 25, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Steve Doerr wrote: > In English, we often call this the 'dedication' of the church. This can > include things like Holy Cross (Sacré Cœur) which are obviously not saints. > > -- > Steve > I know nothing about who churches are dedicated to, but wouldn't Sacré Cœur

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 25/01/2015 16:29, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: I'd like to suggest a new key for patron saints. Certainly patron_saint=* or just patron=*. There are some occurrences in Taginfo, although most values of patron=* do not look like saints. holy_name=* has also been suggested, but this sounds to me

[Tagging] patron saints

Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated to patron saints. E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the patron saint is often part of the common name of a chu

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

On 25.01.2015 11:46, Severin Menard wrote: > I did not find anything on the Map Features regarding shop selling watches, > what is quite common both in Europe and South America (at least). shop=jewelry Watches came out of use when people got mobile phones. The only remaining reason to wear watche

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Sometimes I remove stuff by accident realize it later and instead of going > back just replace it, because I did more stuff in that time and don't want > to lose my work. > If you care about preserving the history of that object, you could do the following in JOSM: Create new layer Download data

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of associatedStreet-relations

Your editor will probably hace displayed a warning at step 1. At the end of the operation, you've got a house missing it street, not a fully broken relation. Most don't. Right now JOSM is the only one I use that does. Especially most mobile editors don't... some just flat out don't even show yo

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

And see also for repairs: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dwatchmaker Or this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dclockmaker -__- Still don't get the difference... __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

And see also for repairs: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dwatchmaker ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Shop for watches

Hi Plural form shop=watches is (a bit) more used and documented at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dwatches But not mentioned in Map Features or Key:shop. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/li

[Tagging] Shop for watches

HI, I did not find anything on the Map Features regarding shop selling watches, what is quite common both in Europe and South America (at least). Most of them arenot shop=watch does not have a high occurrence in Taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=watch#values Did I miss something?