Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com: On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it seems to be a common suggestion for this purpose in

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
On 27/01/2015 9:29 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: (This discussion originated on talk - crossposted to tagging on Malcolm's suggestion) On 26/01/2015 21:16, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Harbour#Quay

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
On 28/01/2015 3:26 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: E.g.: a 17-degree mapped mountain road or San Francisco street's will get its actual length a 5% bonus compared to its real-life counterpart. True, but such roads are not very common (17 degree ~= 30%). There are a few short streets in places like San

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread Wolfgang Zenker
I have placed a request to stop these edits on the users talk page and warned him that I will ban him if this kind of working against the community continues. Please let me know if the problem continues, as I don't watch the tagging list permanently. Wolfgang * Martin Vonwald

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Jo
And dedication was proposed. As one of the first comments in this thread. Then it was repeated when dedication:wikidata was mentioned. Jo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Mike Thompson
I have noticed a length tag used on some linear ways [1]. It seems that this is redundant, as the length could be calculated from the geometry itself. It could also be the source of future errors should someone split the way, for example to add more detailed tagging, such as varying smoothness.

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread jgpacker
I did not read any apology so far, which would be a first step. I think he was banned from this mailing list for the time being, so he would have to apologize elsewhere; but I agree that would help make amends. I would also ask him to avoid making the issues personal. But to be honest, I don't

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-27 16:13 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com: I personally recommend to use the length key while mapping street cabinets as nodes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet On a node it makes perfect sense. At least as long as it is not

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 27/01/2015 11:55, Daniel Koć a écrit : W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a): On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-) You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] ! ;-) It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

2015-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
(This discussion originated on talk - crossposted to tagging on Malcolm's suggestion) On 26/01/2015 21:16, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Harbour#Quay mentions that a quay will normally be tagged as

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com: On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR I swear, I would think that

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2015-01-27 11:25 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com: On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=patron_saint%3Ait%3D*+globalR I swear, I

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread Martin Vonwald
Who has admin power in the Wiki? I again request a ban of this user. Martin 2015-01-27 11:31 GMT+01:00 jgpacker john.pack...@gmail.com: Not five minutes later, he already reverted my changes, justifying it as a single user opinion and undiscussed changed. I also fixed some of his additions

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a): On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-) You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] !  ;-) It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has already mentioned on this thread that

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread jgpacker
Our friend Никита (user Xxzme in the wiki) put his opinion in the wiki regardless of the opposition. Since, as far as I can see, the discussion is still ongoing, I reverted his changes. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread jgpacker
Not five minutes later, he already reverted my changes, justifying it as a single user opinion and undiscussed changed. I also fixed some of his additions in other pages, but he is already reverting them. It seems he is trying to win the discussion by Fait accompli

[Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

2015-01-27 Thread Warin
Request For Discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance Pipe lines currently exist for non drinking water in various part of the world. And have done for some time. They are becoming more numerous as efforts to save water and reduce environmental impacts increase.

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Just FYI, at OSM-PL people map highway milestones - as nodes near highways - which is less prone to error due to people editing geometry.. The map: http://osmapa.pl/konkursy/pikietaz/ Michał ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread fly
Am 27.01.2015 um 16:34 schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2015-01-27 16:26 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com mailto:fl.infosrese...@gmail.com: In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may have influence too.

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

2015-01-27 Thread fly
Am 24.01.2015 um 17:28 schrieb Martin Vonwald: 2015-01-24 17:20 GMT+01:00 Никита acr...@gmail.com mailto:acr...@gmail.com: Are you an idiot? I mean really. I hereby request a ban of this individual from this mailing list and I definitively support an OSM-wide ban. +1 this user

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Bryan Housel
I just did a quick search in iD. We display the “Length” field only on the Runway preset. (I think it does make sense there) Thanks, Bryan On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: I have noticed a length tag used on some linear ways [1]. It seems that this

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-27 16:26 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe fl.infosrese...@gmail.com: In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may have influence too. Ok - understood. Although I doubt, that there is real usage for that example. But I had

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Yann Kacenelen
Hi Mike, hi François, hi all, I don't find the length=* tag redundant either for linear objects like streetlines, especially in the case of pretty steep ones: as they're projected for mapping purposes from 3D to 2D, their actual length is not the one you measure on the map but you should

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Mike Thompson
Thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts. I personally recommend to use the length key while mapping street cabinets as nodes. Agree, length makes sense on nodes The way in OSM is only a (sometimes not precise) drawing of an existing feature and can be different from the reality.

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread François Lacombe
2015-01-27 16:18 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com But on a way? Hm... Any real-world examples for me? To be more precise : OSM is based upon a 2D geospatial database. In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Mike Thompson
E.g.: a 17-degree mapped mountain road or San Francisco street's will get its actual length a 5% bonus compared to its real-life counterpart. True, but such roads are not very common (17 degree ~= 30%). There are a few short streets in places like San Francisco that are this steep. In these

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Quick note: for milestones, the tag used is distance, not length. There's a wiki page with all unit tags if you're into that sort of thing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Just FYI, at OSM-PL

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 Thread Eric SIBERT
Le 27/01/2015 16:34, Martin Vonwald a écrit : Ok - understood. Although I doubt, that there is real usage for that example. But I had a quick look in overpass: besides aeroways it is quite often used on bridges and tunnels, where the actual (official) length can be observed. Makes sense.

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 01/25/2015 10:29 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated to patron saints. E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the