Re: [Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Hi! 2015-01-28 8:48 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > I note that"if the medium of a pipeline you are tagging is not listed > here, please choose a meaningful value at your own discretion."However that > will lead to multiple values all meaning the same thing or be too > restrictive. >

[Tagging] RFD pipeline sub tag substance

Request For Discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:substance Pipe lines currently exist for non drinking water in various part of the world. And have done for some time. They are becoming more numerous as efforts to save water and reduce environmental impacts increase. Unfortunate

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 01/25/2015 10:29 AM, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: Probable all christian churches (buildings) and most chapels are dedicated to patron saints. E.g. the Basilica Sancti Petri (Saint Peter's Basilica) in Vatican City is obviously dedicated to Sanctus Petrus (Saint Peter). As in this example, the pa

Re: [Tagging] length=

On 28/01/2015 3:26 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: E.g.: a 17-degree mapped mountain road or San Francisco street's will get its actual length a 5% bonus compared to its real-life counterpart. True, but such roads are not very common (17 degree ~= 30%). There are a few short streets in places like San

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

On 27/01/2015 9:29 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: (This discussion originated on talk - crossposted to tagging on Malcolm's suggestion) On 26/01/2015 21:16, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Harbour#Quay men

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 64, Issue 135, 4 length=

> From: tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Tagging Digest, Vol 64, Issue 135 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:15:37 + > What do you think? Should the length tag be used with ways and > relations where the length can be calculated from the geometry itself?

Re: [Tagging] length=

Le 27/01/2015 16:34, Martin Vonwald a écrit : Ok - understood. Although I doubt, that there is real usage for that example. But I had a quick look in overpass: besides aeroways it is quite often used on bridges and tunnels, where the actual (official) length can be observed. Makes sense. Indeed

Re: [Tagging] length=

On 27/01/2015, Mike Thompson wrote: >> The way in OSM is only a (sometimes not precise) drawing of an existing >> feature and can be different from the reality. > > How precise is the value of the "length" tag? From what is the value > derived? In my experience of hiking trails in Ireland, the le

Re: [Tagging] length=

Quick note: for milestones, the tag used is distance, not length. There's a wiki page with all unit tags if you're into that sort of thing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Just FYI, at OSM-PL people map highway mil

Re: [Tagging] length=

> E.g.: a 17-degree mapped mountain road or San Francisco street's will get > its actual length a 5% bonus compared to its real-life counterpart. True, but such roads are not very common (17 degree ~= 30%). There are a few short streets in places like San Francisco that are this steep. In these ca

Re: [Tagging] length=

Thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts. > I personally recommend to use the length key while mapping street cabinets as > nodes. Agree, length makes sense on nodes > The way in OSM is only a (sometimes not precise) drawing of an existing > feature and can be different from the reality.

Re: [Tagging] length=

Am 27.01.2015 um 16:34 schrieb Martin Vonwald: > 2015-01-27 16:26 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe >: > > In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in > reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may have influence too. > > > Ok - unders

Re: [Tagging] length=

Hi Mike, hi François, hi all, I don't find the "length=*" tag redundant either for linear objects like streetlines, especially in the case of pretty steep ones: as they're projected for mapping purposes from 3D to 2D, their actual length is not the one you measure on the map but you should consid

Re: [Tagging] length=

Just FYI, at OSM-PL people map highway milestones - as nodes near highways - which is less prone to error due to people editing geometry.. The map: http://osmapa.pl/konkursy/pikietaz/ Michał ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lis

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 16:26 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in > reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may have influence too. > Ok - understood. Although I doubt, that there is real usage for that example. But I had a quick look in overpas

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 16:18 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald > > > But on a way? Hm... Any real-world examples for me? > To be more precise : OSM is based upon a 2D geospatial database. In my mind, a road climbing a mountain won't have the same length in reality than in the DB : the Z dimension may have influence t

Re: [Tagging] length=

I just did a quick search in iD. We display the “Length” field only on the Runway preset. (I think it does make sense there) Thanks, Bryan > On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > I have noticed a "length" tag used on some linear ways [1]. It seems > that this is redundant,

Re: [Tagging] length=

Hi Mike, I don't find it redundant since the length=* tag can give the real length of a feature. The way in OSM is only a (sometimes not precise) drawing of an existing feature and can be different from the reality. The wiki can be completed with such a nuance. I personally recommend to use the

Re: [Tagging] length=

2015-01-27 16:13 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe : > I personally recommend to use the length key while mapping street cabinets > as nodes. > > On a node it makes perfect sense. At least as long as it is not possible/wanted/allowed to

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

I have placed a request to stop these edits on the users talk page and warned him that I will ban him if this kind of working against the community continues. Please let me know if the problem continues, as I don't watch the tagging list permanently. Wolfgang * Martin Vonwald [150127 11:56]: > W

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

> > I did not read any apology so far, which would be a first step. I think he was banned from this mailing list for the time being, so he would have to apologize elsewhere; but I agree that would help make amends. I would also ask him to avoid making the issues personal. But to be honest, I don'

[Tagging] length=

I have noticed a "length" tag used on some linear ways [1]. It seems that this is redundant, as the length could be calculated from the geometry itself. It could also be the source of future errors should someone split the way, for example to add more detailed tagging, such as varying smoothness.

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

> >> And "dedication" was proposed. > As one of the first comments in this thread. Then it was repeated when dedication:wikidata was mentioned. Jo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

Le 27/01/2015 11:55, Daniel Koć a écrit : W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a): On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-) You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] ! ;-) It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has al

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

Am 24.01.2015 um 17:28 schrieb Martin Vonwald: > > > 2015-01-24 17:20 GMT+01:00 Никита >: > > Are you an idiot? I mean really. > > > I hereby request a ban of this individual from this mailing list and I > definitively support an OSM-wide ban. +1 this user needs

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

Who has admin power in the Wiki? I again request a ban of this user. Martin 2015-01-27 11:31 GMT+01:00 jgpacker : > Not five minutes later, he already reverted my changes, justifying it as a > "single user opinion" and "undiscussed changed". > > I also fixed some of his additions in other pages

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

W dniu 27.01.2015 11:25, André Pirard napisał(a): On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : To be correct, the Virgin Mary isn't a saint either ;-) You should urgently warn the Vatican [3] !  ;-) It doesn't really matter anyway. =} Someone has already mentioned on this thread that "patro

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-27 11:25 GMT+01:00 André Pirard : > On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : > > 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr : > >> On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: >> >>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R >>> >>> I swear, I would think that there were

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

Not five minutes later, he already reverted my changes, justifying it as a "single user opinion" and "undiscussed changed". I also fixed some of his additions in other pages, but he is already reverting them. It seems he is trying to "win" the discussion by Fait accompli

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Quay

(This discussion originated on talk - crossposted to tagging on Malcolm's suggestion) On 26/01/2015 21:16, Malcolm Herring wrote: On 26/01/2015 19:23, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Harbour#Quay mentions that "a quay will normally be tagged as par

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

On 2015-01-27 09:51, Simone Saviolo wrote : > 2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr >: > > On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: > > http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R > > I swear, I would think that there were mor

Re: [Tagging] Wiki Edit War on using/avoiding semicolon lists

Our friend Никита (user Xxzme in the wiki) put his opinion in the wiki regardless of the opposition. Since, as far as I can see, the discussion is still ongoing, I reverted his changes. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Wiki-Edit-War-on-using-avoiding-semicolon-lis

Re: [Tagging] patron saints

2015-01-26 15:28 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr : > On 26/01/2015 00:01, Simone Saviolo wrote: > >> http://overpass-turbo.eu/?w="patron_saint%3Ait"%3D*+global&R >> >> I swear, I would think that there were more of these. patron_saint:it >> seems to be a common suggestion for this purpose in Italian discuss