Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 13:56, Bryan Housel wrote: > On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > There should also be a separate page for first aid facility, if you're not > busy :-) > > > I still think a staffed facility should be something under `healthcare=*` > - there is lot

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > There should also be a separate page for first aid facility, if you're not > busy :-) I still think a staffed facility should be something under `healthcare=*` - there is lots on that page already. > Mentioned on the lifeguard

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 12:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 12:00, Bryan Housel > wrote: Anyway I just moved it to `emergency=first_aid_kit` https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfirst_aid_kit

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 12:00, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Anyway I just moved it to `emergency=first_aid_kit` > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfirst_aid_kit > > There should also be a separate page for first aid f

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Would you object if I changed the page to emergency=first_aid_kit for > example?? I would not mind at all - `emergency=first_aid_kit` was what I suggested originally. Someone else made that wiki page and I don’t know why they called it that. Anyway I just moved it to `emergency=first_aid_ki

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 09:06, Bryan Housel wrote: Err .. proposals can be for anything, including sub tags. There should be more of it. Things like the sub tag 'sales' under motorcycle shops could have been avoided if that had come to the tagging group. I would never waste people’s time by writing a prop

Re: [Tagging] PTv1 <> PTv2

2018-06-23 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 22. 06. 18 à 15:37, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > is there a benefit from it? try to map a multimodal station bus+train+tram with one building + one platform with PTv1 the extend for the station is not the same for a bus and a train for some ppl, the plafform must not be mapped with t

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 08:55, Bryan Housel wrote: On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: We’re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones that - don’t already have a `booth=*` tag and That is not right. If they don't have a booth=* tag then don't think that these al

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread marc marc
Hello Bryan, Le 23. 06. 18 à 18:28, Bryan Housel a écrit : > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=first_aid > > So that’s the tag.  Be glad we accomplished something! You confuse speed and quality. If I read well, only 2 ppl are in favor of first_aid value, all other disagree.

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Err .. proposals can be for anything, including sub tags. There should be > more of it. > Things like the sub tag 'sales' under motorcycle shops could have been > avoided if that had come to the tagging group. I would never waste people’s time by writing a proposal for something so simple as

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 6:00 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> We’re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones that >> - don’t already have a `booth=*` tag and > > That is not right. If they don't have a booth=* tag then don't think that > these all have a booth. > So I woul

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
When I first see tower:type I think of how it is constructed .. not its function. So for me it should be tower:function=* The value 'suspension' could be for rope or wire ... If wire it could be for a cable car, hauling logs, transmission of information (even fibre optic cable), transmissio

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 02:28, Bryan Housel wrote: On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: +1, if you want to describe the position of a first aid kit, a sensible tag seems emergency=first_aid_kid For a staffed location where you go for first aid, emergency=

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 03:07, Bryan Housel wrote: Somebody has already posted a picture to the list of a public phone with no hood, no booth, and no cover, so adding booth=yes to all phones could be an error. Are you being deliberately obtuse? We’re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones t

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Somebody has already posted a picture to the list of a public phone with > no hood, no booth, and no cover, so > > adding booth=yes to all phones could be an error. > > Are you being deliberately obtuse? > I am not being deliberately obtus

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> Somebody has already posted a picture to the list of a public phone with no > hood, no booth, and no cover, so > adding booth=yes to all phones could be an error. Are you being deliberately obtuse? We’re not adding `booth=yes` to all phones. Just the ones that - don’t already have a `booth

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:39 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Per Paul Allen’s suggestion, mappers can continue use `covered=yes` for > telephones with a hood. > Would it be better to abuse booth rather than covered and have booth=hood? That way covered can be dropped entirely for use with phones. I

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
Looks like we can wrap up discussion on this. Per Paul Allen’s suggestion, mappers can continue use `covered=yes` for telephones with a hood. Opened https://github.com/osmlab/osm-tagging/issues/8 to track next actions for this. "Consensus on lis

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid

2018-06-23 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 23, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > +1, if you want to describe the position of a first aid kit, a sensible tag > seems emergency=first_aid_kid > For a staffed location where you go for first aid, emergency=first_aid seems > ok (I’d rather use something more verbose l

Re: [Tagging] emergency=first_aid_kit

2018-06-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Jun 2018, at 21:25, Simon Poole wrote: > > I'm actually not quite happy with the whole thing as it would seem to range > from a potentially staffed first aid facility to what you were looking for, a > simple first aid kit. In practical terms that would be a rather

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-23 Thread osm.tagging
Not in any way involved with power mapping, but I don’t think tower:type should have necessarily any implications about what it is that’s being transmitted over the suspended cables. In the specific case of power=tower, while I guess tower:type=suspension might be considered the “default” va

[Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
One of the most used values for tower:type is "suspension". Is this an alternative way of saying power=tower or is there more behind it? If you can provide information, please amend the wiki page stub: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tower:type%3Dsuspension Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

2018-06-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. Jun 2018 19:44 by kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com : > It's better to choose tags that will make the job of > consuming the data easier, even if that makes for a small amount of > additional work for the mapper. (Within reason, of course!) > I would agree w

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Peter Elderson
Don't know the PT scheme, but if you want to route over different transport methods, you'll have to connect the routes somehow. 2018-06-23 10:28 GMT+02:00 Jo : > Op za 23 jun. 2018 om 10:26 schreef Peter Elderson : > >> I think a bus stop node on the bus route is exactly what is needed to >> rou

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Jo
Op za 23 jun. 2018 om 10:26 schreef Peter Elderson : > I think a bus stop node on the bus route is exactly what is needed to > route people from anywhere to anywhere. You connect the pedestrian route to > the bus route at that point. It does not really matter if the route > includes a platform way

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Jo
> > You forgot to mention that PTv2 complicates tagging > > and processing by requiring to add also bus=yes. > > > As I do not like entering two tags where one fits well I continue > > and will continue and want to continue mapping bus stops > > solely as highway=bust_stop. > > > bu stop is also n

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Peter Elderson
I think a bus stop node on the bus route is exactly what is needed to route people from anywhere to anywhere. You connect the pedestrian route to the bus route at that point. It does not really matter if the route includes a platform way, or a platform node, as long as it's part of the pedestrian r

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Jo
It is not needed to have a platform. In that sense the public_transport=platform is a misnomer for the node that represents the bus/tram stop., but it is what was decided we would use. Maybe we should come up with a v3 where that node gets a different value, say public_transport=passengers_zone/ar

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23. Jun 2018 05:17 by osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au : > highway=bus_stop, currently tagged beside the road -> > public_transport=platform > highway=tram_stop, currently tagged on the rail -> > public_transport=stop_position > > homogenizing these t

Re: [Tagging] public_transport=platform rendering on osm-carto

2018-06-23 Thread Markus Lindholm
On Fri, 2018-06-22 at 08:05 +, marc marc wrote: > Le 22. 06. 18 à 01:26, Yves a écrit : > > Why adding 'platform' where there's no physical platform? > > public_transport=platform describe where passagers wait > for a public transport. > if there is no dedicated area, use a node outside the ro