Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread bkil
It is perfectly acceptable to come up with better tagging for established things and deprecate the old one, if we also invite downstream users from the start of the process (anyone?). I didn't recall commenting on the talk page but looks like I had pretty good arguments. To accommodate rooms,

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I’m not a native speaker but I don’t think there will be any confusion when using changing_table. I don’t know of any changing tables for adults outside of nursing homes. In case of need we can add changing_table:for=adults. Am Freitag, April 19, 2019, 11:06 PM schrieb marc marc : I

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread marc marc
I encourage you to make a proposal if you want. in reality the problem #1 is that some members of the community are very cautious when there is a 1:1 change proposal to replace a bad "not-low-usage" key with a new better key, including those who have never filled one of this object in osm nor

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Valor Naram
You (Warin) and marc marc made some suggestions on how to improve this key. I also found a workaround for the problem of> [r]eplacing the key `diaper` with `changing_table` [or some other key or by any other changings how to tag changing tables] without or with the consens of the others of the

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 19 April 2019, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > It is interesting that the idea that large size abstract concepts > > projected onto arbitrarily delineated parts of the physical > > geography by cultural convention like bays, peninsulas, linear > > rivers and plateaus might not be suitable for

Re: [Tagging] junction=yes as a polygon. Who uses them?

2019-04-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 19, 2019, 7:36 PM by o...@tobias-knerr.de: > On 19.04.19 18:35, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > >> Following a discussion on OSM-Carto, I'm curious what software uses >> junction=yes as a polygon. >> > > Polygons with junction=yes + area:highway=* are part of some variants of > street area

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 6:28 AM Christoph Hormann wrote: > It is interesting that the idea that large size abstract concepts > projected onto arbitrarily delineated parts of the physical geography > by cultural convention like bays, peninsulas, linear rivers and > plateaus might not be suitable

Re: [Tagging] junction=yes as a polygon. Who uses them?

2019-04-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.04.19 18:35, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > Following a discussion on OSM-Carto, I'm curious what software uses > junction=yes as a polygon. Polygons with junction=yes + area:highway=* are part of some variants of street area tagging, e.g. https://wiki.osm.org/Proposed_features/Street_area

[Tagging] junction=yes as a polygon. Who uses them?

2019-04-19 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Hi Following a discussion on OSM-Carto, I'm curious what software uses junction=yes as a polygon. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Dyes#How_to_use_on_an_area A couple of examples: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5492033 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218106249

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 18/04/2019 um 18.52 schrieb Christoph Hormann: > On Thursday 18 April 2019, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> Please avoid the term "label painting." What you call "label >> painting" is the entirely reasonable desire to have recognized, named >> objects appear on the map with their names. > > I

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Pass A depression or gap in a range of mountains or hills permitting > easier passage from one side to the other. mountain_pass=yes on a node of the highway or path: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass > Point A raised mass of land that projects over a lower area (water or

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
For valleys, the tag natural=valley is in use and has a wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=valley On 4/19/19, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 07:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Head/headland A comparatively high promontory of land projecting into

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 07:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Head/headland A comparatively high promontory of land projecting into > the sea with a steep face. An un-named head is usually described as a > ‘Headland’ when a specific name is assigned, it becomes a ‘Head’. > Isn't that

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 19 April 2019, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > But as already hinted i am not sure if the Drake Passage is > > something i would consider mappable in OSM based on local > > knowledge. > > But, without wishing to sound facetious, how do we then have > coastlines for Eurasia, Greenland &

Re: [Tagging] Stop the large feature madness (was: Tag for a plateau or tableland?)

2019-04-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 19, 2019, 1:59 AM by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 07:26, Christoph Hormann <> o...@imagico.de > > > wrote: > >> On Thursday 18 April 2019, Kevin Kenny wrote: >> > > And how do you verifiably determine if two things are part of the >> > >

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Apr 19, 2019, 11:57 AM by valin...@gmx.net: > So you suggest to change the wiki via proposal? Then we have a problem which > we should also be aware of. I quote myself: > > > Replacing the key `diaper` with `changing_table` [or some other key or by > > any other changings how to tag changing

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 at 16:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pass A depression or gap in a range of mountains or hills permitting > easier passage from one side to the other. > I've been using the mountain_pass=yes tag, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass although I

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Valor Naram
So you suggest to change the wiki via proposal? Then we have a problem which we should also be aware of. I quote myself:> Replacing the key `diaper` with `changing_table` [or some other key or by any other changings how to tag changing tables] without or with the consens of the others of the

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread marc marc
Le 19.04.19 à 10:28, Valor Naram a écrit : > > [...] documented values are mix of how many, what and where. > > Can you explain me in other words what do you mean please. check https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:diaper exemple 1 diaper=yes ok exemple 2 diaper=number of changing tables

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Valor Naram
> And then I realized diaper=* is not a good idea for a key.But it is widely used (https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=diaper#keys) and the only key I know for the purpose of tagging changing tables. I also discovered that my suggestion `diaper:wheelchair` is already in use (but not

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Valor Naram
> imho diaper is a little ugly [...]Why?> [...] documented values are mix of how many, what and where.Sry, can't follow you. Can you explain me in other words what do you mean please. Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 18. Apr 2019, at 21:21, Paul Allen wrote: > > I think this is a very bad tag. I'm not sure I'm doing it right, but I can't > find a proposal for this > tag. I agree, and you can find related discussion also here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:diaper

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Warin
On 19/04/19 17:11, Topographe Fou wrote: Oups sorry, it was not your discussion on plateau/mesa, I mixed those discussions, my bad... That is OK, I get these multiple long threads mixed up too! Whatever I still think summarizing a proposal would help for all those major geological

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Topographe Fou
Oups sorry, it was not your discussion on plateau/mesa, I mixed those discussions, my bad... Whatever I still think summarizing a proposal would help for all those major geological features :) LeTopographeFou   Message original   De: letopographe...@gmail.com Envoyé: 19 avril

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Topographe Fou
Warin, Now you start having some main feedbacks (see plateau/mesa/...), may I suggest you write a global proposal for missing geological features? In fact it is what you are doing in the mailing list but without formalism. But too many emails with too many threads to be able to follow and

[Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-19 Thread Warin
Along with plateau the following look to be missing from the OSMwiki, these may not be all.. Pass A depression or gap in a range of mountains or hills permitting easier passage from one side to the other. Point A raised mass of land that projects over a lower area (water or land).