Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-22 Thread 石野貴之
Thank you for the reply. > These difficulties, and opposing ideas on how to deal with existing tags, make it hard to change established tagging schemes. But I am strongly in favour of not establishing new amenity=* for hitherto unmapped facilites, but rather use new tags altogether, whose use can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting results - Police facilites

2019-04-22 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Sorry to see that it missed out Jan :-( As Joseph suggests, maybe take out the country specific & try again? On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 at 11:22, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > It looks like several critical comments mentioned that the country > specific tagging (eg police:FR=*) was not good. > Just for i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting results - Police facilites

2019-04-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
That’s very close. I suppose it would have been approved with one more vote. It looks like several critical comments mentioned that the country specific tagging (eg police:FR=*) was not good. I would suggest just removing these from being mentioned in the proposal. Perhaps we can try talking to t

Re: [Tagging] Walking Routes, how to tag alternatives/additions/shortcuts/approach tracks etc.

2019-04-22 Thread Warin
The 'Great North Walk' https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1388126 has - the ways that form the route ... and 3 relations with the roles 'alternate' that form alternative paths .. one of them is a closed section that was the original path but is in conflict with a shooting range. On 23/0

Re: [Tagging] Walking Routes, how to tag alternatives/additions/shortcuts/approach tracks etc.

2019-04-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Do you have a link to an example? I’m reminded of the Oregon Coast bicycle route, which has alternative section s that leave the main highway to follow a scenic but longer road through the hills or closer to the coast. There are also alternatives that follow a Main Street (high street) through a v

[Tagging] Walking Routes, how to tag alternatives/additions/shortcuts/approach tracks etc.

2019-04-22 Thread Peter Elderson
Long walking routes often have a main route and several additions of various types. If these additions are not waymarked, they are not recorded in OSM. Easy. But often, they are. On maps these are usually shown as a striped line, while the main route is usually a continuous line. I would like to

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

2019-04-22 Thread Jan S
Am Mo., 22. Apr. 2019 um 01:48 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > > It certainly makes overpass turbo queries a lot simpler and more intuitive > if we can group all > education facilities under education rather than under amenity. Typing > "education=*" is shorter > than "amenity=school or amenity=univer

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting results - Police facilites

2019-04-22 Thread Jan S
The voting period for the refined police facilities proposal ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Police_facilites) has ended. The proposal has been rejected by 8 approvals against 3 rejections (72.7% approval). Best, Jan ___ Tagging m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 8:47 AM Valor Naram wrote: > I need to clarify the access=* key for my proposal to pleace this discussion. > > changing_table:access=yes > The changing table is accessible to the public. This means you can change the > nappy of your baby without being a customer. This happ

[Tagging] RFC - Connectivity

2019-04-22 Thread Leif Rasmussen
Hi everyone! I have recently been mapping a lot of turn:lanes information on highways in my area, but ran into the issue that turn:lanes fails to store all of the necessary information in many junctions. Multi-lane roundabouts, single point urban interchanges, 5 way intersections with divided road

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:57 PM Michael Brandtner via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I don' think we should use no, but private. But as others have stated, I > can't really think of a changing table that should be mapped in osm but > isn't accessible even for customers. > But us thi

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 14:45, bkil wrote: > leisure=outdoor_seating + shelter=no + covered=no > The wiki for the tag does not offer shelter or covered as associated tags. Instead it has weather_protection. leisure=outdoor_seating seems to do what the OP wanted. The only quibble I have with it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Michael Brandtner via Tagging
I don' think we should use no, but private. But as others have stated, I can't really think of a changing table that should be mapped in osm but isn't accessible even for customers.  But us this really a point we need to discuss? Can't we just say that changing_table:access should be used with v

Re: [Tagging] Other missing landform tags

2019-04-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:39 AM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Col or gap (use saddle? And that is in OSM) = a col is the lowest point on a > > mountain ridge between two peaks. > > Yes, "col" is the French word for saddle, a low point on a ridge. > > A gap is also usually a saddle (or sometimes a m

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
leisure=outdoor_seating + shelter=no + covered=no On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:11 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 13:49, bkil wrote: > >> Note that outdoor_seating is usually for customers, so don't forget to >> add: >> access=yes >> > > True, usually it's associated with customers.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Valor Naram
It could be added to the "features" key as "adjustable_height" value. Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing tableFrom: bkil To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" CC: To aid those with achondroplasia, I think it would also be useful

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 13:49, bkil wrote: > Note that outdoor_seating is usually for customers, so don't forget to add: > access=yes > True, usually it's associated with customers. But there may be public outdoor seating, possibly covered. Also, why not simply use the already established: > sh

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
To aid those with achondroplasia, I think it would also be useful to indicate whether adjustable_height is a feature of the table, though I guess they are already prepared to use the floor anyway. On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:22 PM Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 00:50, marc marc wr

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
Note that outdoor_seating is usually for customers, so don't forget to add: access=yes Also, why not simply use the already established: shelter=no + covered=no? On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 2:35 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 11:01, bkil wrote: > >> This is what note=* is for - when

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Valor Naram
I need to clarify the access=* key for my proposal to pleace this discussion.changing_table:access=yesThe changing table is accessible to the public. This means you can change the nappy of your baby without being a customer. This happens rarely.changing_table:access=noThe changing table isn't also

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 11:01, bkil wrote: > This is what note=* is for - when you'd like to disclose an important fact > with future mappers that is not that interesting to non-mappers. You may > also draw a way/area and indicate the count of benches there or the total > sitting capacity. We may

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 at 00:50, marc marc wrote: > > if the goal is to talk about accessibility, then use the wheelchair tag. > That just says if you can get a wheelchair into the toilet. but if by measuring the height of the table, you think you have done > what it's need to inform accessibility

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Valor Naram
changing_table:location=unisex_toilet;wheelchair_toilet Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing tableFrom: bkil To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" CC: Well, the place I had in mind only had a unisex toilet - a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
height=* was my fault, but I don't feel strongly about it, you may remove it then. "straps" and "tilting" could still go under the list of *:feature=*, though, that's a good idea. toilet vs. room vs. dedicated_room: How do you map a changing table that is found inside a small "toilets" corridor/ar

Re: [Tagging] diaper subkey for wheelchair toilets including a changing table

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
Well, the place I had in mind only had a unisex toilet - a single, unsegregated entrance with possible multiple booths. In this case, the two are equivalent. If there exist two entrances: one unisex and one wheelchair, then it is reasonable to differentiate the two. On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:27 A

Re: [Tagging] Variable position

2019-04-22 Thread bkil
This is what note=* is for - when you'd like to disclose an important fact with future mappers that is not that interesting to non-mappers. You may also draw a way/area and indicate the count of benches there or the total sitting capacity. We may need to submit a proposal this, though. https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Baby changing table

2019-04-22 Thread Warin
On 22/04/19 09:49, marc marc wrote: Le 22.04.19 à 00:39, Paul Allen a écrit : On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 22:56, marc marc wrote: however I wonder if it's useful to promote changing_table:height is there really any use for this tag ? A parent in a wheelchair might find that useful informa