Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Andrew Davidson
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:38 AM Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > What, then, should be the distinguishing characteristic between > waterway=canal and waterway=ditch or =drain? Width or importance or > navigability, or should we still mention the usage as the main > differen

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Thank you for the information about Japan. How are the small drainage/irrigation channels tagged currently in Japan? Are most tagged as waterway=drain, waterway=canal or waterway=ditch? We have lots of these in Indonesia, in the rice-growing areas with irrigated fields, but most are more like de

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread ET Commands
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:46:28 +0100 From: Paul Allen To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 19:09, ET Commands wrote: My personal criteria is not meant to be that exact. For example, I c

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I had a chance to look at these 4 examples of small artificial waterways used for irrigation or drinking water and lined with stone or concrete, suggested to be tagged as =aqueduct 1) This is a shallow, straight waterway about 1 meter wide, which is the bottom of a wider depression, in a semi-arid

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of tunnel=flooded vs tunnel=yes for waterways?

2019-05-29 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Joseph, Le mer. 29 mai 2019 à 01:55, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > I'm a little confused about how to decide when to use tunnel=flooded > vs tunnel=yes with waterway=canal or other free-surface-flow > waterways. Is this tag meant to replace all instances of tunnel=yes > for large waterways, or

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Connectivity

2019-05-29 Thread marc marc
Hello, in the rational, you said "there are many cases where turn:lanes=* can't provide that information." could you add a case where turn:lanes are included that more clearly shows what the connectivity=* adds ? ideally 2 examples that would have the same turn:lanes value for the "from" way and

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread John Willis via Tagging
Javbw > On May 29, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > What, then, should be the distinguishing characteristic between > waterway=canal and waterway=ditch or =drain? Width or importance or > navigability, or should we still mention the usage as the main > difference? The biggest

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Le mer. 29 mai 2019 à 10:59, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > What about the practical, human scale distinction we use for natural > waterways (can be jumped over), wouldn’t it be equally interesting for man > made waterways? > Is a canal you can jump over still a canal, or does size somehow

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
For me all of the look equally fine. 29 May 2019, 15:24 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > Which of the ways of tagging "irrigation" should be used? > > "irrigation=yes" works ok, but it hasn't been very popular the last few years > "service=irrigation" is still most common, but the key is a littl

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 19:09, ET Commands wrote: My personal criteria is not meant to be that exact. For example, I can > see from an aerial photo a large building surrounded by a large parking > lot. I can surmise that several or many people work in the building, > but I have no idea what they

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread ET Commands
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 12:47:37 +0100 From: Paul Allen To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 10:51, bkil wrote: By the way, don't get me wrong, it is a perfectly valid desire to tag these

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread ET Commands
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:34:52 +0200 From: bkil To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in I can see what maintenance burden this notation could bring, but I would need more information to see what we could gain from

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread ET Commands
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 20:24:54 -0400 From: Kevin Kenny To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 1:07 PM marc marc wrote: following that, building=yes building:use=yes is better yes can be i

Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in

2019-05-29 Thread ET Commands
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 17:05:14 + From: marc marc To: "tagging@openstreetmap.org" Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging buildings that people work in Le 23.05.19 à 18:57, ET Commands a écrit : building=occupied building=* is about what the building look like a industrial-look building with a r

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - changing table

2019-05-29 Thread Valor Naram
Hey, I am encouraging you to vote for the Proposal at https://wiki.openstree tmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/changing_table a second time. I'm in hope to get that approved. I want to see your choices. Best regards Sören alias Valor Naram ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 14:56, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > "Otherwise it's just a slope." > > According to > https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/embankment > in British English the term embankment is defined as "an artificial > slope made of earth and/or stones". > Beware of dicti

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> "Otherwise it's just a slope." According to https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/embankment in British English the term embankment is defined as "an artificial slope made of earth and/or stones". On 5/29/19, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:42, Christoph Hormann wr

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Which of the ways of tagging "irrigation" should be used? "irrigation=yes" works ok, but it hasn't been very popular the last few years "service=irrigation" is still most common, but the key is a little odd "usage=irrigation" makes sense and is increasing in usage See chart of usage over time: ht

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. May 2019, at 12:53, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > If there are small irrigation waterways that area lined with stone (or > concrete etc), we probably need a new tag, since waterway=drain is > pretty strongly associated with drainage, not irrigation, and > waterway=c

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 13:42, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > man_made=embankment is almost exclusively used for one-sided artificial > slopes - prominently supported by OSM-Carto rendering it this way. > That surprises me. Not that either man_made or barrier was used for one-sided artificial slop

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 29 May 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > > How the terms are used may vary from country to country. OSM tags do > not necessarily > correspond closely to technical and/or common usage. Meanings may > differ for > features like embankments depending upon context (railway embankment, > fortifi

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 01:20, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > On github, Christoph mentioned that some of these features tagged > barrier=embankment may be types of earthen fortifications, as found in > Europe, eg earthen ramparts, earthworks or earth banks. > > > "Double/symmetric embankment not conne

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Not sure about small rock-cut waterways with massive impermeable sides, are > these ditches or canals or drains? We don't have these in the western USA, but generally our ditches are dug out of the soil, so I would be surprised to see a feature tagged as waterway=ditch if it were cut from bedr

Re: [Tagging] Difference between barrier=embankment and man_made=embankment?

2019-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mi., 29. Mai 2019 um 02:20 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > "Double/symmetric embankment not connected to some other primary feature > like a road... something we in German call a 'Wall' " > > It could be translated "rampart" - "a large wall built round a town, >

Re: [Tagging] Irrigation: ditches, canals and drains

2019-05-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 29. May 2019, at 03:37, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > What, then, should be the distinguishing characteristic between > waterway=canal and waterway=ditch or =drain? Width or importance or > navigability, or should we still mention the usage as the main > difference? I