Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Warin
On 25/08/19 15:02, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Getting back to the original example, phone=* was proposed first and voted on in 1/2008 - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phone - the tag was rejected. Some people at the time did not think that OSM should contain phone

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Getting back to the original example, phone=* was proposed first and voted on in 1/2008 - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Phone - the tag was rejected. Some people at the time did not think that OSM should contain phone numbers, others preferred something like

[Tagging] Add amenity=childcare to Map Features?

2019-08-24 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The tag amenity=childcare is fairly popular (used 17,000 times), and it's supported by the iD editor and the Openstreetmap-carto rendering. Should this tag be added to the wiki page Map Features? The original proposal wasn't supported because some people thought that amenity=kindergarten should

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Valor Naram
That's why I want to involve all user groups. Mappers, developers and local communities.CheerioSören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purposeFrom: marc marc To: tagging@openstreetmap.orgCC: Le 24.08.19 à 18:04, Valor Naram a

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
24 Aug 2019, 18:39 by pla16...@gmail.com: > Editors won't (in general) > implement tags in presets unless they're widely used.  > This is not true. Barrier for support in editors is really low. Many tags that are not widely used are supported. For example man_made=obelisk  support was just

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread marc marc
Le 24.08.19 à 18:04, Valor Naram a écrit : > why we have two tags for one purpose sometimes? many (almost all bad) reasons can explain it : - one key exist, a new schema is born with a new tag for the same feature/meaning, but the new schema never got a proposal or the proposal never go into

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Valor Naram
> Editors won't (in general) implement tags in presets unless they're widely used.  Unless editors and carto support tags, they won't get widely used, so editors and carto won't support them.  Chicken and egg.Yes, you're right. But I was the author of "changing_table" and the guy who lead it throw

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
The tagging Community (this list) will negotiate it and it's the office at the same time. The process should be like the process for proposals but only discussion and vote.RegardsSören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Peter Elderson
Valor Naram het volgende geschreven: > > We need a system to prevent or instinct the usage of two or more tags for one > purpose. I suggest the following behaviour: > 1. Negotiating which key can be considered as official. Who will negotiate, what do they have to negiate with? What office

Re: [Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 17:06, Valor Naram wrote: > > In my opinion this is a topic we should consider working on and creating a > wikipage to describe the "defragemtation" process in general. > Doing so is probably not going to achieve much. First we need to defragment OSM itself. It doesn't

[Tagging] Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-24 Thread Valor Naram
Hey, some long time ago I wondered why we have two tags for one purpose sometimes? For example: A mapper can use either the tag `contact:phone` or `phone` to add a phone number to the database. I think this makes the database dirty and for developers - like me - it's annoying to support two or

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - cash_withdrawal

2019-08-24 Thread amilopowers
Hello Everyone My proposal went from draft to rfc: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Cash_withdrawal Definition: There are more and more supermarkets, kiosks, convenience shops, railway ticket offices and others where you can get cash at the cashier (checkout). They are