Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Feb 27, 2020, 00:22 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > Different tags are used for petroleum wells vs water wells because > they look totally different and their function for the general map > user is quite distinct. A water well might just be a covered hole, but > if it is a bored (drilled)

Re: [Tagging] Clarify explicit abstention when voting on a proposal

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
On Thu, 27 Feb. 2020, 08:22 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > > can you explain with the amended rules what the outcome would be for > > 8 votes yes, 0 no, 1 abstention > That is 8 unanimous approval votes so it is passed. 8 votes yes, 1 no, 1 abstention Didn't reach the required quorum of 10

Re: [Tagging] Sorting waterway relations?

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
JOSM doesn't change seem to change the order when it sorts, if the relation is already listed "backwards" but in an ordered string. It also won't sort a waterway relation which includes sidestream members, or gaps. But if you sort an unsorted waterway and each of the ways can be put into one

Re: [Tagging] Sorting waterway relations?

2020-02-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020, 13:48 Joseph Eisenberg, wrote: > When you make or sort a relation of type=waterway, do you check if the > source or mouth of the river is first on the list of ways? > As the ways point in the direction of flow I would have said that source to sink was the natural sorting

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was > voted ? That's not necessary. It's fine to keep the proposal name as it is. > 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? Login to the wiki, then go to

[Tagging] Sorting waterway relations?

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
When you make or sort a relation of type=waterway, do you check if the source or mouth of the river is first on the list of ways? Another user just suggested that the spring/source of the waterway should start the list, then the mouth of the river at the ocean (or where it empties into a larger

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Christmas trees are intended to regulate the well pressure or manage filling > product injection to raise field pressure. > You'll find them independently on oil or water wells depending on the > pressure. Very few water wells have high enough pressure to require such a device. 99.9% of water

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Le jeu. 27 févr. 2020 à 00:23, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > Different tags are used for petroleum wells vs water wells because > they look totally different and their function for the general map > user is quite distinct. A water well might just be a covered hole, but > if it is a bored

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Different tags are used for petroleum wells vs water wells because they look totally different and their function for the general map user is quite distinct. A water well might just be a covered hole, but if it is a bored (drilled) well it will be connected to a manual or powered pump. An oil or

Re: [Tagging] man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Jmapb
On 2/26/2020 4:59 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It's also possible to have a functioning petroleum well without any notable surface-level equipment So in that case, there would be no "pumping rig", right? There would just be some pipes and valves the the wellhead, aka a "Christmas tree":

Re: [Tagging] Clarify explicit abstention when voting on a proposal

2020-02-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Note that "adding no vote may turn failing vote into a passing vote" is a separate issue. 26 Feb 2020, 22:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg >> wrote: >> >> Does anyone else want to add their comments or votes there? This

Re: [Tagging] man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> It's also possible to have a functioning petroleum well without any notable surface-level equipment So in that case, there would be no "pumping rig", right? There would just be some pipes and valves the the wellhead, aka a "Christmas tree": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellhead and

Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

2020-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:56, Markus Peloso wrote: > > The amenity=give_box tag is specific for sharing and reusing none food items. > Please do not use it for food sharing +1, although these are somehow similar features from a certain point of view, they are also

Re: [Tagging] Clarify explicit abstention when voting on a proposal

2020-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > Does anyone else want to add their comments or votes there? This seems > to be a rough consensus now. can you explain with the amended rules what the outcome would be for 8 votes yes, 0 no, 1 abstention 8

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread François Lacombe
Le mer. 26 févr. 2020 à 22:06, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > these aren’t independent concepts, a water well works differently than a > gas well. The substance (and its intended use, and the intended quantity) > define/s the requirements for the well. > We both agree on the sense. I meant

Re: [Tagging] Clarify explicit abstention when voting on a proposal

2020-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > After 2 weeks, the discussion at Talk:Proposal_process shows 10 people > in favor of considering an abstention the same as not voting, except > for the quorum, and 1 opposed: >

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Feb 2020, at 21:32, François Lacombe wrote: > > Nevertheess, should we take advantage of this discussion to use man_made=well > + substance=* only as to prevent usage of values mixing two independant > concepts (the well and the substance)? these aren’t

Re: [Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, Le mer. 26 févr. 2020 à 20:55, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > thank you for bringing this up. I just noticed you have added a > deprecation note on > > man_made=gas_well > > and suggest to use man_made=petroleum_well for gas wells. >

[Tagging] man_made=gas_well Was man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:56, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > man_made=petroleum_well thank you for bringing this up. I just noticed you have added a deprecation note on man_made=gas_well and suggest to use man_made=petroleum_well for gas wells.

Re: [Tagging] man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 2/26/2020 3:54 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: There are some users on the wiki who seem to treat these two tags as near-synonyms man_made=petroleum_well man_made=pumping_rig The later was approved, but the first is much more common. The proposal in 2008 for pumping_rig said "A tag for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

2020-02-26 Thread Markus Peloso
Thanks, Markus, for your feedback. I agree with you, network fit better then brand. I remove charity I think it is not usefull because it do not fit. The little free pantry is more about food for people in need. My intention was to document this with charity=yes. Best regards Markus aka

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

2020-02-26 Thread European Water Project
Hello, Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to amend the final voted tag pair to : drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3; Can someone please guide me on the below. I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

2020-02-26 Thread Markus
Thanks, Markus, for writing this proposal. I like the proposed tag. Just two minor things regarding tags that can be used in combination: - brand=* Optional. Name of the brand or network of the facility if there is one visible. eg. I would change this to network=* as it seems to fit better.

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

2020-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wednesday, 26 February 2020, Marc Gemis wrote: > What about music festivals? I live close to the area that hosts one of > the biggest festivals in the world: Tomorrowland. [1] > The festival takes place in a former quarry, which is a park for the > rest of the year, although it hosts some

[Tagging] man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
There are some users on the wiki who seem to treat these two tags as near-synonyms man_made=petroleum_well man_made=pumping_rig The later was approved, but the first is much more common. The proposal in 2008 for pumping_rig said "A tag for pumping platforms - gas, oil, etc. The rig may be on

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

2020-02-26 Thread Markus Peloso
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing «A shelf/box/fridge where people drop off and pick up food in the sense of free sharing and/or to reduce food waste.» Hi I added the current proposal for food sharing I made to the wiki. What do you think about it? Best

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

2020-02-26 Thread Marc Gemis
What about music festivals? I live close to the area that hosts one of the biggest festivals in the world: Tomorrowland. [1] The festival takes place in a former quarry, which is a park for the rest of the year, although it hosts some smaller yearly events as well. The festival started as a

Re: [Tagging] Clarify explicit abstention when voting on a proposal

2020-02-26 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
After 2 weeks, the discussion at Talk:Proposal_process shows 10 people in favor of considering an abstention the same as not voting, except for the quorum, and 1 opposed: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposal_process#Clarify_whatever_explicit_abstaining_is_the_same_as_no_vote "In