Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 at 16:42, Allroads wrote: > bicycle=leave > This is for me, leave the bicycle behind at the sign. > More native English speakers can give a comment on that? I would not have understood it without the explanation given by Peter below. ("If you are with bike, you will have to le

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Peter Elderson
Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 25 jul. 2020 om 22:43 heeft Allroads het > volgende geschreven: > > The earlier mentioned, > bicycle=leave > This is for me, leave the bicycle behind at the sign. > More native English speakers can give a comment on that? If you're not with bike, the sign/access doesn

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Peter Elderson
Op 25 jul. 2020 om 22:43 heeft Allroads het volgende geschreven: > So, now we need also a hard yes. That you must bring a bicycle with you. That's an attribute of the bus service/transfer, not the road, I think. > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Allroads
https://images.mapillary.com/8ErC5D9pxN0AzAJ8YVrEAw/thumb-2048.jpg with extra text, for pushing carry a bicycle. "fietsen meenemen niet toegestaan" "not allowed to bring bicycles" This is a privat acces_sign, guaranteed by access law, expressed by “access in an apparently way for him is prohibit

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jul 2020, at 20:28, Jo wrote: > > In Antwerpen there is a bus that you can only take, as a cyclist, so > accompanied by a bicycle +1, in the German town of Tübingen there was also such a Bus which brought cyclists up the hill (it is suspended for many years now I

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 25/07/2020 14.26, Jo wrote: In Antwerpen there is a bus that you can only take, as a cyclist, so accompanied by a bicycle. It's a subsidised service of the harbour, free for its users (commuters). The bus replaces a ferry and goes through a tunnel, prohibited for cyclists riding a bicycle. *

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

2020-07-25 Thread Jo
In Antwerpen there is a bus that you can only take, as a cyclist, so accompanied by a bicycle. It's a subsidised service of the harbour, free for its users (commuters). The bus replaces a ferry and goes through a tunnel, prohibited for cyclists riding a bicycle. Polyglot On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 17:

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/07/2020 17:21, Matthew Woehlke wrote: On 25/07/2020 07.06, Andy Townsend wrote: Why do people in OSM map anything?  I can't see any reason why I'd want to add urban buildings, or comprehensive address data, or a whole bunch of other things that people think are _really important_. How

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 25/07/2020 07.06, Andy Townsend wrote: Why do people in OSM map anything?  I can't see any reason why I'd want to add urban buildings, or comprehensive address data, or a whole bunch of other things that people think are _really important_. How are addresses _not_ important? If I'm trying

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-07-25 at 18:07 +0200, pangoSE wrote: > Fine by me to attach them to whatever. > I would not map them twice. > > Anyway I never met or heard about anyone who wanted to navigate to a > signpost. Usually people navigate to attractions like a lake or a > firepit or a viewpoint or simple f

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread pangoSE
Fine by me to attach them to whatever. I would not map them twice. Anyway I never met or heard about anyone who wanted to navigate to a signpost. Usually people navigate to attractions like a lake or a firepit or a viewpoint or simple follow a route and walk past the guideposts. I find them some

Re: [Tagging] Tagging motorcycle parking

2020-07-25 Thread Matthew Woehlke
On 25/07/2020 03.34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 24. Jul 2020, at 16:18, Matthew Woehlke wrote: if there is no name, what makes a parking space logically one lot? Consisting of one contiguous surface? Clearly associated with the same building? but it’s clearly distinct things: a motorcycl

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-25 Thread Tobias Zwick
> I think it would help with community acceptance of a potentially large > number of meta tags if you're somewhat frugal when it comes to adding > new ones. [...] > > In practice, this could mean ... > > * ... not adding key:check_date when the key is first added, or when the > value is changed a

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-25 Thread Tobias Zwick
> adding check timestamps as string tags for every single tag seems a lot of > bloat. One tag per object for me would be acceptable because it is indeed a > valuable information when something was last verified and no changes were > necessary. Definitely it has the potential for that. And as Ma

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-25 Thread Tobias Zwick
Thanks! > Secondly, I think having to evaluate the history is a challenge. But do > you have to?  No, I don't have to, thanks to such tags as check_date. But then again, check_date, survey:date etc. only came to be invented because API support was missing. It would be better to have somthing like

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-25 Thread Tobias Zwick
> It is completely possible to add this functionality to the API in a > backwards compatible fashion, at the cost of a long per tag in the > current table (assuming that we don't need the information for historic > object versions, so at a reasonable cost space wise. There are a couple > of semanti

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread Peter Elderson
Op za 25 jul. 2020 om 13:07 schreef Andy Townsend : > > (re adding guideposts to route relations) > > On 21/07/2020 22:18, Peter Elderson wrote: > > I think the Why question comes first. Why do people in OSM map anything? I can't see any reason why I'd want > to add urban buildings, or comprehen

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

2020-07-25 Thread Andy Townsend
(re adding guideposts to route relations) On 21/07/2020 22:18, Peter Elderson wrote: I think the Why question comes first! Why do people in OSM map anything?  I can't see any reason why I'd want to add urban buildings, or comprehensive address data, or a whole bunch of other things that peo

Re: [Tagging] Finger- or guide-post text

2020-07-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 17/07/2020 16:24, Jan Michel wrote: Hi Andy, we already have (not well documented) tags for this: Either you use destination_sign relations as Sarah pointed out. Or, if you prefer a more simple approach, there are eight defined keys to add the information with approximate directions: dire

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

2020-07-25 Thread Simon Poole
Am 25.07.2020 um 03:45 schrieb Jarek Piórkowski: > > Well, a new API endpoint _could_ automatically read through the entire > history of a node and note which tags changed when. It would > essentially be doing what I do when I open the node history in JOSM > and look when tags changed - only

Re: [Tagging] Tagging motorcycle parking

2020-07-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jul 2020, at 16:18, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > >>> ...and what if we're mapping spaces? I'm not sure I'm on board with >>> dividing things which are logically "one parking lot" >> if there is no name, what makes a parking space logically one lot? > > Consisting of one