Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Pumping proposal

2020-11-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The current tagging of man_made=water_well + pump=no/manual/powered is currently used by the HDM style, featured as the "Humanitarian" map layer on Openstreetmap.org, to determine what sort of icon should be shown for a water well. Examples:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Pumping proposal

2020-11-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
On the Talk page, the proposal author has now ignored two different requests to change the new pump=values to a different key like pump_mechanism, which would allow the continued use of pump=manual and pump=powered. The author claims: "I find current tagging meaningless (with all due respect to

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 08:41, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairn it seems that it is > something more purposefully constructed than > "pile of unwanted stones kept in one place" > Yes, that's what I thought

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
We call them stone walls, but every so often a pedantist comes along and reminds us that they're actually stone fences. On Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:56 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 22:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> I was having similar thoughts just a couple of days ago,

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 22:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > I was having similar thoughts just a couple of days ago, about what to > call a pile of rocks that a farmer has cleared from, then piled up in, a > field? > In the part of the world I was raised, rocks cleared from fields were used to

[Tagging] Piles of stones

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairn it seems that it is something more purposefully constructed than "pile of unwanted stones kept in one place" Create area and mark as surface=stone ? man_made=pile_of_stones ? Nov 20, 2020, 23:32 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > I was having similar

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
I was having similar thoughts just a couple of days ago, about what to call a pile of rocks that a farmer has cleared from, then piled up in, a field? natural=bare_rock says it's exposed bedrock =scree has fallen from an adjacent rockface =shingle is on a beach or river bed =stone is for large

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
There is also an undocumented surface=stone, which I tend to thing is identical to bare_rock. Though I could see "rock" meaning a rougher surface than stone/bare_rock. On Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:22 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > Nov 20, 2020, 23:14 by

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Nov 20, 2020, 23:14 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 20. Nov 2020, at 23:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging >> wrote: >> >> surface=rock >> surface=bare_rock >> > > > these seem both explicit and ok, although bare rock is a bit redundant  > and rock alone has 5 times

Re: [Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Nov 2020, at 23:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > surface=rock > surface=bare_rock these seem both explicit and ok, although bare rock is a bit redundant and rock alone has 5 times the usage: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/surface=rock I

[Tagging] surface=rock

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
It seems that we have no good value to mark surface of path of rocky paths. surface=gravel fits for surface of small rocks (almost always man made, though especially in mountains some may be of a natural origin) surface=fine_gravel fits for small gravel surface=unhewn_cobblestone =sett

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Tobias Zwick
You stated how you would tag that, which I'd summarize as > Any parking on the street surface is subtracted from the lanes as the > lanes-tag first and foremost indicates the number of usable lanes, not > the number of marked lanes Ok, so apparently there is no consensus on that if there are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Pumping proposal

2020-11-20 Thread François Lacombe
Dear Mateusz, Proposal goes through different stages and I was proposing simpler driver=* instead of mechanical_driver. Comments have been made about the possible confusion with human drivers driving cars.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Pumping proposal

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I am not a fan of deprecating pump=manual and replacing it with nearly impossible to remember and less clear mechanical_driver=manual Also, this proposal deprecates pump=powered without providing replacement Now to tag this info one is supposed to select value from reciprocating_solenoid

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Nov 20, 2020, 11:47 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Am Fr., 20. Nov. 2020 um 11:28 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny <> > matkoni...@tutanota.com> >: > >> This seems unlikely, with 0 lanes it would mean that cars inside are blocked >> and unable to leave. >> > > > that's not the meaning of "lanes",

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 20. Nov. 2020 um 11:28 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > This seems unlikely, with 0 lanes it would mean that cars inside are > blocked > and unable to leave. > that's not the meaning of "lanes", lanes=0 would mean that there are no traffic lanes. (this is what

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Nov 20, 2020, 11:03 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Am Fr., 20. Nov. 2020 um 09:45 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> > tagging@openstreetmap.org> >: > >> I would describe >> https://westnordost.de/misc/2or1lanes.jpg>> as road >> with >> - one lane driveable by full-size vehicles >>

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 20. Nov. 2020 um 09:45 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > I would describe https://westnordost.de/misc/2or1lanes.jpg as road > with > - one lane driveable by full-size vehicles > - one parking lane > really? And if vehicles would be parking on both

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Mark Wagner via Tagging
In most if not all of the United States, the cars *would* be parked illegally: most places have a law stating that you can't park on the side of the road if doing so would obstruct traffic. For example, from the Spokane Municipal Code: > It is unlawful for any person to park, or leave parked, a

Re: [Tagging] lanes - is "parking allowed" a parking lane?

2020-11-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I would describe https://westnordost.de/misc/2or1lanes.jpg as road with - one lane driveable by full-size vehicles - one parking lane And tag it as: lanes=1 parking:lane:both=parallel (judging from what is visible about left side) Additional detail that I am generally not tagging may specify