Le 26/07/2015 03:20, Arch Arch a écrit :
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I did not do a complex thing.
I've
I did some try.
* Mont-Blanc area claimed by France and Italy but occupied by nobody.
I have split the boundary into two branches (an awful job considering
the number of administrative relations involved).
I defined an area with:
disputed_area=yes
dispute:claim:FR=yes (area claim by France)
di
I think a good test case for testing if this can handle ongoing and complex
conflicts would be Kashmir, as it's currently five-ways disputed between
Pakistan, India, China, a Kashmir separatist/freedom/independence movement,
and recently displaced-from-Afghanistan irregular Islamic fundamentalist
Overlapping should be the first step to mapping a dispute. Then if you want
to add dispute attributes, you could create a new multipolygon with areas
in question, and add dispute specific tags, wikidata tags, and similar.
In my previous message, I proposed to create a relation for the
disputed
@Eric: I looked at more examples, and I have to admit that you are right
with your statistical (0.1%) argument. Most cases I looked at, are obvious
accidental tagging errors.
I checked for Madagascar. I found one case and I'm the author :-p
I first added embankment and later cute a small part of
Yes, some disputed areas are more stable and, in osm, one may focuses
first on it.
In a lot of cases, there is "de facto" one country administrating the
area. We should use the "de facto" aspect to draw a closed
boundary=administrative.
Then we may add to the relation disputed areas with
Although I agree that such combination is suspicious...
> 250 in France
A rough evaluation for France give me 200k ways with bridge=yes. So
about 1 error each 1000 bridges. Not such a big issue.
My 0,02 €.
Eric
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One thing that perhaps might want to be captured in other disputes is
what happens when one country actually occupies and controls the
disputed territory. There, there's a de facto border and a claim.
Yes, I started with the easy case where not country is occupying the
disputed area and both
Hi folks,
The are many disputed areas in the world but I want to talk about a
specific one : the Mont-Blanc area.
- Near the Mont-Blanc submit, there is a disputed area between France
and Italia.
- Both governments agree that there is a dispute
- Both governments also decided not to solve th
In Italy we've been using something like
maxspeed=50; source:maxspeed=IT:urban
maxspeed=90; source:maxspeed=IT:rural
+1 in France:
maxspeed=50; source:maxspeed=FR:urban
maxspeed=90; source:maxspeed=FR:rural
maxspeed=130; source:maxspeed=FR:motorway
maxspeed=30; source:maxspeed=FR:zone30
maxspe
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Thanks
Éric
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(I think of the roads we drove in Kenya), so any input is welcome even if it
isn't perfect. We ran into some nasty surprises during our trip because the
road quality wasn't tagged at all.
+1.
I also widely use smoothness=* in Madagascar. Indeed, I use it to
describe practicability of roads or
I had assumed for years that the direction pointing upwards was a commonly
agreed on standard, being myself an architect I hadn't expected this to be
questionable, but as I got so much flak from people insisting on the other
way round,
Like me :-p (although not insisting).
Indeed, as a poor lon
I started modifying the wiki following our recent discussion.
For cuisine=*, I added:
"May also apply to other services that deliver food, like convenience."
For shop=convenience, I added (in Tags used in combination):
"Stores selling specific type of food or with ethnic origin may use
{{tag|cu
Le 27/01/2015 16:34, Martin Vonwald a écrit :
Ok - understood. Although I doubt, that there is real usage for that
example. But I had a quick look in overpass: besides aeroways it is
quite often used on bridges and tunnels, where the actual (official)
length can be observed. Makes sense.
Indeed
I wonder if there are enough of them to warrant their own bridge=*, as there
are so many kinds of bridges. I bet we can put a ford tag on the bridge - it
might be a simple solution.
I agree with your suggestion of using boot bridge=yes and ford=yes as it
is usually a bridge but sometime behav
My apologize for switching the discussion (so I change the title
accordingly) and also for slowly answering.
First, I was not aware of depth=* use recommendation with ford=yes
although it is in the wiki for years.
Let me back to Madagascar. We have:
- unpaved road crossing permanent river
Le 19/01/2015 18:42, althio althio a écrit :
John Willis mailto:jo...@mac.com>> wrote:
> I think there should be ethnic=*, Nationality=* , or culture=*tag
that can be used [...]
I find culture=* the best so far.
I find it specialised enough (compared to _type=*, origin=*, category=*,
group=*
althio althio a ?crit :
On 19 January 2015 at 13:42, Eric SIBERT wrote:
One may also not that road are also subject to intermittent (un)usability.
Some unpaved one are closed during rainy season.
something with conditional?
access:conditional = no @ (Jan-Apr)
This is what I'm usi
I'm following this thread since the beginning. I'm interested in
intermittent river for Madagascar
(http://osm.org/go/lrsj4--?relation=447325). There is mostly a dry
season and a wet/rainy season from December to April. There is also
around 3 cyclones a year.
Some rivers (or part of river) o
Hi all,
I'm wandering on how to tag shops that are offering services with
specific ethnic orientation. For instance:
- convenience specialized for Italian, Portuguese, Chinese products...
- clothes typical from one country/area
- hairdresser for African people although non African may also wan
Did yo had a look at the discussion of the proposed feature?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Milestones
I agree that for pk, by default, unit should me considered as metric,
as for height, maxweight, maxwidth, maxheight, maxlength...
Eric
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I'd not choose amenity=cafe if they don't sell besides the juice
also coffee. Look how quite specific the other tags are for places
where you can drink, eg biergarten, pub, cafe, bar, kiosk, nightclub
...
I'm wondering if the way we are coding different places where we can
drink or eat i
Hi,
I'm also using piste:type=nordic alone not only in field but also on
track/road because a lot of things are different between piste and
road. Physically, the piste is over the road but don't use his
surface. Road is open in summer, piste in winter. Piste could be
oneway and not the ro
Le 19/11/2012 15:58, Janko Mihelić a écrit :
Maybe something even wider like:
service:money:transfer=yes
service:money:exchange=yes (because you can exchange currencies in some
banks too, not only exchange bureaus)
service:money:withdraw=yes
service:money:deposit_coins=yes
I like it.
So servi
There's a proposal in the wiki that money transfer agents such as
Western Union should be tagged as amenity=money_transfer.
I don't like this tag because of the over use of amenity key.
+1.
Many of the money transfer agents are banks or bureau de change, which
are amenities.
Yes, in France,
About the values existing
[...] For example, in my proposal there are a
comment about obstacle=bridge (69,57% values of obstacle now), that can
see here
I'm surprise by the large use of obstacle=bridge. Do we have any idea on
how it is used now?
Éric
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Hi,
In France, we have a strong misuse of this tag. Some people are using
it instead of name=*. Maybe due to a lack of translation in Potlatch
because "désignation" in French is a synonym of name. It is also used
instead of note=*.
For instance :
building = school
name = Maison de la Pet
Road classification... such a difficult subject in many countries.
For the part that inhabitants can use, highway=residential and
access=destination.
After, for me, the road is large enough for a car but motor vehicles are
prohibited -> highway = pedestrian. Don't care about park maintenance.
"Other lanes such as Wikipedia spitsstrooken in the Netherlands or
Wikipedia temporäre Standstreifen in Austria, Germany and Switzerland
which are available to GENERAL traffic (I.E. NOT LIMITED TO A SPECIFIC
KIND OF VEHICLES) at certain restricted times, for example during the
rush hour. "
To pre
Sorry for late answer. There is so much traffic related to lanes on this
mailing list.
I suggest the following rewording which should reflect the initial intention:
"Other lanes such as Wikipedia spitsstrooken in the Netherlands or
Wikipedia temporäre Standstreifen in Austria, Germany and Switz
For practical tagging I think it is too theoretical for most mappers to
understand the difference.
[...]
In somehow, having a not to complicated model or at least a two levels
model a first simple model could be better.
Back to my initial problem
lanes=2
lanes:condtional = 3 @ traffic_jam
l
Hi,
I'm translating the lanes=* wiki page into French. And some cases are
coming into my mind :-p
On a motorway, the emergency lane can be used by psv (bus and taxi) when
there is traffic jam on the usual lanes. There is no predefined hours.
Just, when traffic jam is detected, light signal a
The standard English term for a bridge that is only wide enough for one vehicle to pass through at
a time is a "one-lane bridge". In the same way, a roadway only wide enough for one
vehicle at a time is a "one-lane road". The bridge or road is visibly only one lane
wide; painting lane markin
you could use lanes=1 on the narrow parts.
Agree.
- a bridge or a raft with a bad link to the road/track i.e. a step at each
end of the bridge/raft. obstacle=unevenness ? or obstacle=step? For me
unevenness is to soft for what you describe.
split the way and put a short highway=steps, step
- a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite
direction. We may use width=* but it is difficult to get it
precisely. obstacle=narrowness
It's slightly offtopic, but wouldn't it be logical to use "car" as a non
accurate unit of length? So you can have a tag like "width=
Hi,
During my last travel in Africa, I was thinking on how to map
obstacles on road. So I support your proposal but in a generalized
way, not only for pedestrian or bicycle. And I take the opportunity to
review what I observed:
- a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite
I'm looking how to tag a road with seasonal opening or closing. ...
Have you tried: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions
May I improve the wiki on seasonal=* to indicate that it would be nice
to use it in conjunction with Conditional_restrictions?
Regards
Eric
For mountain pass in Alps, this could be just
access:conditional = no @ Nov-Apr
That seems logical to me. One word on using "access:conditional" though -
this would indicate no access, including on foot.
In somehow, we may consider that the road does not exist in winter due
to the large a
One of the main mountain highways here is closed to licensed vehicles
during the winter months, but snowmobiles are permitted. Would
vehicle:conditional apply to snowmobiles?
I also have a similar problem with road that are use in winter for
nordic (or not) ski. Up to now, I added a second way
>I'm looking how to tag a road with seasonal opening or closing. ...
>Up to now, I was using "opening_hours=*" with "Nov-Apr off".
Have you tried: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions
I had a look some time ago but without thinking at seasonal roads.
> Work is under wa
Hi,
I'm looking how to tag a road with seasonal opening or closing. Typical,
mountain pass are closed in winter due to snow. Usual opening and
closing dates are published (like open from week 24 to 41). In opposite,
some roads on ice are only opened in winter. In Africa, some unpaved
roads ar
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