Re: [Tagging] definition of the key "office"

2017-07-06 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
> On 6 Jul 2017, at 13:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> - employment_agency > Some people (the public) go to employment agencies to seek employment. doubtlessly. Is it similar to a “shop”? Do they “sell a service”? It will depend on the kind of agency (e.g. in Germany, you won’t

Re: [Tagging] leisure=events

2014-03-10 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 10.03.2014 um 09:30 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: And even other shared purpose concepts are pretty common for event spaces, I think: - Sometimes parks (most of the year leisure=park) are used for events regularly. - Many parking spaces (most of the year

Re: [Tagging] Optical telecomunication cable tagging

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.03.2014 um 00:16 schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: type=telecom type is reserved for relations, use something similar like pipeline:type instead Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-09 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 09.02.2014 um 14:01 schrieb Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com: This then means that tagging a traffic_sign:forward=* on a node that is part of a way is also more then arguable. We'll have to keep on searching for better ways to map traffic signs. Maybe the Finnish style is not so bad after

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an imaginary oneway barrier

2014-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.02.2014 um 10:05 schrieb Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com: 1 Cut the way where the sign is and use a relation type : restriction. 2 Add a node on the way where the sign is and add a motorcar:backward=no to this node. (similar to traffic_sign:forward on a node that is part of a way) 3 Cut

Re: [Tagging] How to tag max width at chicane-type bicycle barriers

2013-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.12.2013 um 10:44 schrieb Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: Should I use width or est_width which normally indicates the width of a way? Yes, you could tag the width to the portion of cycle way in the barrier. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 20:26 schrieb Jonathan bigfatfro...@gmail.com: However, in this instance I'm prepared to change my vote to abstain. As long as you don't vote yes all votes are counted the same as a no, an actual abstain requires to cast no vote at all Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 22:38 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in a different direction +1 ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-12-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.12.2013 um 22:47 schrieb Jonathan bigfatfro...@gmail.com: :-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the UK cyclists ride where they like! :-) In Italy as well, but in Germany they might even withdraw your driving license (for the car) if you did certain

Re: [Tagging] preproposal : internet webcam

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 18:40 schrieb Egil Hjelmeland pri...@egil-hjelmeland.no: contact:webcam=url is fine, that tell we have a webcam. Do we really need anything more to tell its a webcam? I think contact:webcam is nonsense, you can't contact someone via his webcam. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Bicycle=use_cycleway

2013-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30.11.2013 um 21:25 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Cyclists shall be required to use the track if the track is running along a carriageway, footpath or track for riders on horseback and leading into the same direction Again a confirmation (and leading into the same

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=highway

2013-11-29 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 29.11.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com: Typical in the US is that the right of way (ROW) is the land on which a carriage way is built. That land area is, if possible, quite a bit wider than the traveled way and will include the land used for shoulders, drainage

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.11.2013 um 22:14 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: And what is the opinion of other users about moving casino into the leisure tag space? I don't see any advantage. Leisure so far was used mostly for sport related places, parks, nature reserves and playgrounds,

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: Alright, so mapping Italian tobacco shops as shop=newsagent would not make sense. On the other hand, in the Netherlands there are shops that offer everything you might find in a German shop=tobacco (newspapers,

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 16:40 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: Did you mean that a kisok does not offer any indoor place for customers but is only a counter with (covered) shelfs outdoor ? No, I meant that a kiosk is a small freestanding building, often polygonal (hexagon, octagon, etc.),

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gambling

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 13:10 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: - amenity=casino: A gambling place with at least one table game. I'm not sure if requiring a table game is a good idea, IIRR in Monte Carlo you can find casinos with only slot machines, but they won't qualify (iMHO)

Re: [Tagging] Proposal - RFC - man_made=lamp

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 14:52 schrieb Manuel Hohmann mhohm...@physnet.uni-hamburg.de: I propose the tag man_made=lamp for lamps, together with a number of additional tags for lamp type, light source, power and so on. Central motivations for this proposal are: Wouldn't it make more sense use the

Re: [Tagging] Pre-proposal: Newsagent / Kiosk / Tobacco / TIcket shop

2013-11-04 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 03.11.2013 um 17:25 schrieb sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: for tickets I'd like something like office=tickets (so we'll catch also the place vending tickets outside a museum). I'd prefer shop= ticket_office as the key Office is used for different objects in osm Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Power transmission refinement - Rejected

2013-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 01.11.2013 um 19:08 schrieb François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: And if we work on voltage description, we should prevent us from using values with implicit voltage thresholds, like minor_line vs line. IMHO here is a good reason to deprecate minor_line (and

Re: [Tagging] mapping qanats

2013-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 27.09.2013 um 21:33 schrieb Michał Sałaban mic...@salaban.info: However it might create confusion with already existing bridge=aqueduct. IMHO bridge=aqueduct is nonsense, we also don't use bridge=highway or railway, and aqueducts don't have to be bridges, they are also underground, or on

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - gross weight

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 25.06.2013 um 23:36 schrieb Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi: Therefore, the prohibiting sign with the hgv symbol only bans vehicles registered as vans and hgv's, i.e. not for example buses. Unlike in for example Germany, where that sign seems to refer to (gross) weight only. No,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - shop=bakery, bread_bakery, confectionery

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.06.2013 um 00:00 schrieb Murry McEntire murry.mcent...@gmail.com: A proposal for improving the current misleading definitions and misuse of bakery and confectionery; and a requested separation of bread bakeries from bakeries of other bakery goods, is now open for voting. IMHO your

Re: [Tagging] How to tag apartments in a building that is multiuse

2013-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 26.06.2013 um 00:25 schrieb Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: A new tag called residential, where the value specifies the type of residential, such as: residential=apartment residential=condo residential=co-op residential=single_room_occupancy (these would be open for

Re: [Tagging] Underground power lines in tunnel

2013-06-05 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 05.06.2013 um 10:37 schrieb François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: As you mentionned, the tunnel/bridge name can precise which bridge is but it's not a relational (or even spatial) way of bringing objets together. Ok a tunnel isn't easy to map since we can't use GPS.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Substation Refinement

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 21/mag/2013 um 23:28 schrieb Ole Nielsen on-...@xs4all.nl: power=station tag was really created by accident (German for substation is Station) whereas power station in English actually is a synonym for a power plant actually in German a substation is called Umspannwerk (transformer

Re: [Tagging] Juice restaurants

2013-05-09 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 09.05.2013 um 15:20 schrieb Eric Sibert courr...@eric.sibert.fr: I'd not choose amenity=cafe if they don't sell besides the juice also coffee. Look how quite specific the other tags are for places where you can drink, eg biergarten, pub, cafe, bar, kiosk, nightclub ... I'm wondering

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 08/apr/2013 um 00:03 schrieb François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: I'll update proposal with following generator tag values: generator=output or generator=intermediate (generator=* key doesn't exist). I'd suggest a more specific key name like generator:role etc. Output

Re: [Tagging] Power generation refinement: power plant model evolution

2013-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/apr/2013 um 16:34 schrieb François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu: Even if the spatial DB allows us to compute closed ways to get what is inside, we don't have any distinguishing element associated to all that stuff. Mainly, dealing with intermediate and output

Re: [Tagging] Mismatched Level of Detail in highways vs. other elements

2013-04-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/apr/2013 um 22:55 schrieb Martin Atkins m...@degeneration.co.uk: The photo misleads because the boarding islands make it look like there is a separation between the railway and the roadway. In practice this is only true next to the boarding islands; Then the highway should be split

Re: [Tagging] on-call bicycle ferry service

2012-12-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/dic/2012 um 03:23 schrieb Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: It sounds more like a water taxi. I'm not sure if that's a widely used term in Europe, but they exist on some rivers here - you call up, it comes and gets you. Not normally for bikes, but that still. In Venice there are

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-29 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 29/nov/2012 um 06:42 schrieb Andreas Labres l...@lab.at: BTW, there are many cases where more than one type of school reside in the same building/campus, eg. Volks- + Haupt/Mittelschule (6-15). This is similar to shops, and i believe we could similarily distinguish here between 2

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [talk-be] )

2012-11-21 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 21/nov/2012 um 11:25 schrieb A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: created_by=(erased) note=temporary node until nearby way speed limit is set maxspeed=30 source:maxspeed=http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=123619 FIXME:tag same maxpeed and source:maxspeed onto the

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 20/nov/2012 um 08:05 schrieb David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com: That varies by city. In Cleveland, this is true. But in Columbus, 200 North Third Street and 200 South Third Street are two distinct addresses on the very same Third Street. Still, I think the Karlsruhe Schema is

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [OSM-talk-be] )

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 20/nov/2012 um 10:40 schrieb A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: Well, do you think it would be useful to add those POIs and how? If they are sign positions I think they are useful. You can tag them with traffic_sign=maxspeed and maxspeed=30 on the sign position (to infer the

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: expanded address tags for US

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 18/nov/2012 um 21:16 schrieb Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com: These tags are necessary because unlike other countries, the US has no nationwide house numbering/street naming standard. A nationwide standard might exist in some countries, but also for Germany and Italy, the countries

Re: [Tagging] exit_to on motorway_junction

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 19/nov/2012 um 08:46 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: As I'm pretty lazy I prefer to solve problems only once. Therefore I would suggest the following (and would do it): * create a wiki page for exit_to * state its current use * point to the key destination as better

Re: [Tagging] RFC advertising

2012-10-28 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 28/ott/2012 um 15:32 schrieb Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is: In Iceland we sometimes have companies parking cars in public spaces or in private land after making a deal with the owner. The cars are marked with the company and almost always have advertising signs on the side. How

Re: [Tagging] How to tag: Legally separated ways

2012-10-16 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 16/ott/2012 um 11:28 schrieb Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com: To be able to do proper routing for emergency vehicles perhaps it would be a good idea to introduce something like landuse=highway that would denote an area suitable for motor vehicles and that is free of physical

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:17 schrieb Pieren pier...@gmail.com: I'm currently trying to refresh a wiki translation of the Access key page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access I think too that a signle value is enough as already mentionned there. If we keep customer, we need another

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 11/set/2012 um 14:55 schrieb Pieren pier...@gmail.com: If you specify the access for customers, then you have to do it for employees or visitors as well. Think about parkings or entrances in theatres, hotels, airports, supermarkets, malls, factories, hospitals, etc... I don't agree

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-07 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 07/set/2012 um 14:50 schrieb Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: If we have a case of one boat going across a river, it should be one line, one set of tags. But here on the Croatian coast, things are a bit more complicated than that. Lines even have different variations that are used on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - man_made=kiln

2012-08-30 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 30/ago/2012 um 15:36 schrieb Richard Smith r...@haveyougotanypets.com: I would argue that oven on OSM is being used to describe a heating or cooking device of food as almost all key values are wood_fired. I use oven=wood_fired for pizza shops with an oven like this, could also be used