Re: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes"

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Harris
+1 > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Randy > Sent: 28 October 2009 21:04 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Tagging] Highway property proposal "covered=yes" > > I have run into several situat

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
Good advice ... +1! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] > Sent: 28 November 2009 19:43 > To: Steve Bennett > Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org; tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs..

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Harris
+1 for UK too. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of John Smith > Sent: 02 December 2009 21:47 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] bi

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Harris
#x27; + 'foot=yes' it would be reasonable to assume a default that the cyclist could wheel / carry the bike. I agree that horses are different - walking a horse is usually not allowed where riding a horse is not allowed (for protection of the surface) and carrying the horse is relatively unco

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-06 Thread Mike Harris
n significantly churn up a soft surface. Whereas wheeling (or carrying) a bike is unlikely to significantly inconvenience pedestrians nor to do any harm to the path. 2. Perhaps horse=no should mean that you cannot ride or lead a horse - but you can carry it (like a bike)? (;>) Mike Harris >

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Harris
+1 Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Dave F. > Sent: 07 December 2009 13:07 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no >

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Harris
highway=path so far as possible and give preference to highway=footway / cycleway / track etc. unless the path on the ground was an ill-defined informal track with unknown (or no) legal status. This provides more information. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: taggin

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
the rest of the tagging. This list and elsewhere there is of course an enormous ongoing debate on the uses and misuses of highway=path vs. all the other values for highway= ... But life is too short! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [m

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
I wouldn't try to argue whether legal status is a more or less important attribute than any other. However, where known, it is a useful piece of information. In countries that do not have 'right to roam' and where it is therefore illegal (at least a trespass) to walk on a path across private land u

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
Almost every single one in England and Wales - clearly defined, in the public domain and of great use to some of us to have the information in the database. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
usage? Mike Harris _ From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Mann Sent: 08 December 2009 09:57 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no Are we edging towards: bicycle=yes|no|pr

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
... On the last point - could we even deprecate designated= - I find it confusing and redundant and always use designation = (see wiki pages) - but maybe this is wrong? Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tag

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
the legal status (with acknowledgment to Richard Mann, who has usefully just added the concept of 'local name' for the value of the tag to the concept of using the 'designation' tag. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org >

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Harris
Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Anthony > Sent: 08 December 2009 18:10 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Mik

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
nce my question ... > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roy Wallace > Sent: 08 December 2009 21:55 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no > > On W

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
... That seems entirely sane ... Imho the most important thing is to map what's there on the ground ... If wonks like me want to add further information that they happen have available then that's fine too - but we're all volunteers! > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Harris
... is this even correct? subtags off access=* or values for highway=* ? _ From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 09 December 2009 03:34 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicy

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-10 Thread Mike Harris
... not quite ... I now that page and have studied it well ... But try comparing that page with some of the others I cited in my previous long e-mail ... That's the dilemma that I don't think I'm alone in facing ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- &g

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-10 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roy Wallace > Sent: 10 December 2009 05:50 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no &

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-10 Thread Mike Harris
_ From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of James Livingston Sent: 10 December 2009 11:01 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no On 09/12/2009, at 3:30 AM, Mike Harris wrote: Personally

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-10 Thread Mike Harris
Thanks for the gentle reminder ... I did make a couple of small contributions when it first appeared and had then been away in sunnier climes and had forgotten about it ... Mea maxima culpa ... I'll put on my thinking cap and revisit as and when time permits. Mike Harris > -

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge ofthe law?

2009-12-11 Thread Mike Harris
Roy Wallace says ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Roy Wallace > Sent: 11 December 2009 07:45 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: [Taggin

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Ramm > Sent: 14 December 2009 09:15 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeof the law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett > Sent: 14 December 2009 09:18 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Liz > Sent: 14 December 2009 10:52 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicitknowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Pieren > Sent: 14 December 2009 12:13 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Anthony > Sent: 14 December 2009 14:47 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highwa

Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledgeofthe law?

2009-12-14 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Craig Wallace > Sent: 14 December 2009 18:39 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway w

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-17 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris didn't write that - though I did read it! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Johnson > Sent: 17 December 2009 01:31 > To: tagging@openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Greg Troxel > Sent: 18 December 2009 13:48 > To: Paul Johnson > Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org; tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re

Re: [Tagging] Post_Box and addr:* nodes

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Harris
ed in a different country ... Do mailboxes there carry any reference that could be used instead of an address. If the local system is to use a street address as the official mailbox reference I could see a case for using this as ref=* for the mailbox and leaving the address tag for the building. Any help

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Johnson > Sent: 20 December 2009 22:31 > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Taggin

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris _ From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 21 December 2009 06:21 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways Quesion is: is there

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Harris
.. And, as it is a default, public footpaths do not normally have any signage to indicate 'no cycling' ... I'm not making any recommendation here about tagging ... Just saying that geographical differences do exist and it may be useful for any tagging system to allow for this ... Mike

Re: [Tagging] Proposed definition for cycleways

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Harris
... I've refrained so far from getting into this burgeoning discussion thread ... just 2 humble pleas though: 1. It is different in different countries. In England there are cycleways ... typically part of long-distance non-urban routes that have been created either primarily for cyclists or a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 24, Issue 31

2011-09-29 Thread Mike Harris
g mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- Mike Harris ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging