[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
hello folks, first RFC here! Proposal to add a tag to map "A device put on public land used for notifying a fire department of a fire." Full proposal here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/fire_alarm_box Add a tag for fire alarm call boxes. A fire alarm box, fire alarm call

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:00 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > is this intended only for those alarm boxes that directly notify a fire > department or would those for local systems count as well (e.g. ring an > alarm bell)? > These are to call the fire department only. _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:33 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Do we also use this tag to tag the "In case of fire, break glass" alarms > eg https://goo.gl/images/4qVSgc, that are found throughout public access > buildings eg hospitals, high rise offices, hotels, universities etc? > IMO to add those

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 5:40 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > it is exactly the same thing . I would also include those in private > buildings, there’s no difference. > I can see how one would think they are the same. To a first respondent, they have few important differences that may not be vis

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-04 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:06 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I think you have to make it clear if it should be limited to public alarms > on the street, or any alarm box could get the tag including those in > buildings, and if it is the former the tag should get a different name, > while the tag n

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - emergency=fire_alarm_box

2018-11-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, the fire alarm box tag has been in RFC status for a while and all the concerns raised have been addressed. Here is the proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/fire_alarm_box Please leave your votes and comments. /stef _

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:16 AM Paul Allen wrote: > Ambulance stations > (like fire stations) are places where people should be aware that high > speed emergency > vehicles may suddenly appear from. > This is a factor but not the main one for using emergency=fire_station or ambulance. These ameni

[Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-15 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, i'm a bit confused about how to map soft story buildings. The Wikipedia definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_story_building is soft story building is a multi-story building in which one or more floors have windows, wide doors, large unobstructed commercial spaces, or other o

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-16 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 1:17 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > no, this clearly isn’t a suitable key because the soft story property from > what you wrote above is about a structural detail in some floors while > building structure is about the general structural system of a building or > part of i

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-18 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:19 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > It is at least debatable, I know there are some people who love long > structured tags, although this idea is in a minority in Osm tagging, most > people do not use tags like this. It doesn’t seem necessary in this case to > use a struc

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:17 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > indeed, that's what I was suspecting. Would it be possible to give mappers > summary advice on a short wikipage how to identify potential soft storey > buildings? Or is this something that requires expert training? > This requires expe

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:58 AM Michael Patrick wrote: > Because their may not have been very many of these left after multiple > earthquakes? > Interesting theory :) There are hundreds of thousands of these sort of buildings in California alone: it's a pretty big deal. First, it might be noti

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-29 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 3:44 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > usually the answer to this is we do not want to be merely redistributing > authoritative data that OSM mappers can not improve. Sorry, I am not making myself clear enough. This data can be modified and improved by OSM mappers. It's no

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - building:soft_storey

2019-01-24 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, I put together a proposal page after our conversations on the list[1]. There doesn't seem to be a strong opinion in favor or against building:soft_storey as a key, and given that the key is already in use[2], I suggest we use it. The proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - building:soft_storey

2019-02-02 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks, discussion is tapering off on The proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/building:soft_storey Definition: a type of construction where any one floor is significantly more flexible (less stiff) than those above and below it If there are no more obj

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - building:soft_storey

2019-02-03 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 2/3/19 3:13 AM, marc marc wrote: if the goal is to define the seismic quality of a building, That's not the goal. The goal is to have an easy way to identify buildings that are more likely to require attention in the immediate aftermath of an earthquake. wouldn't it be better to have a

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - building:soft_storey

2019-02-10 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Thanks to all who contributed to refine the proposal. I addressed all the concerns raised on the talk page on on the mailing list. I opened the voting phase today on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_featur/building:soft_storey Definition: a type of construction where any one floor