Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies e...@csl.com.mx: I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: http://www.misterminit.de/ cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread Alex S.
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. *I* am a craft=fashion, and *not* a fashion_designer. Specifically: custom embroidery, heat-applied vinyl, direct-to-garment screen

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread Alex S.
John Smith wrote: On 8 September 2010 05:03, Peter Körner wrote: Looking at the tag definition, it would be a craft because it's creating custom-made things. How many lock smiths actually make something? The ones here sell and install alarm/security systems, cut keys etc... They don't make

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread Eric Jarvies
interesting... On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:56 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies e...@csl.com.mx: I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: http://www.misterminit.de/ cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread Andreas Labres
On 08.09.10 09:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: http://www.misterminit.de/ In Austria http://www.misterminit.at/ they even offer ink cartridge refill ;) Happy tagging /al ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 September 2010 18:17, Alex S. m...@swavely.com wrote: A locksmith can and will customize off-the-shelf locks to fit a particular purpose. One example - master-keyed locks. Each pin-and-tumbler lock needs the single-shear pins removed and replaced with the appropriate double-shear pins.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-08 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 8 September 2010 08:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/9/8 Eric Jarvies e...@csl.com.mx: I've never seen a locksmith shoe repair store either :-) there is a big franchise in Germany who offers exactly this: http://www.misterminit.de/ Which can be found in

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I already voted yes, but actually agricultural_engines doesn't correspond to Landmaschinen, it might be agricultural_machinery, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_machinery (but this article actually looks like it was created by a German, maybe someone else can help us). The

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. jeweler is AE ,use jeweller (BE) craft=photo is too generic, there is not explanation given (just questionmarks), and it isn't a craft IMHO. instead of staging I'd

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread SomeoneElse
On 07/09/2010 16:55, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: I already voted yes, but actually agricultural_engines doesn't correspond to Landmaschinen, it might be agricultural_machinery, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_machinery (but this article actually looks like it was created by a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 September 2010 02:01, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. or shop... I'd also consider things like hairdresser to be in shop, even though it

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 September 2010 02:27, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: In English Engish Agricultural Machinery or Agricultural Equipment could describe both powered and non-powered farm machinery. Agricultural Engine historically might have referred to either a fixed or mobile steam engine

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/7 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: craft=mechanic mechanic=[agriculture|marine|automotive] +1, I also thought about this. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I guess I'm a little confused by the description A place producing or processing customised goods as it doesn't seem to fit some of these occupations, especially what I'd think of as the building trades: HVAC, electrician, carpentry, carpet, roofing, plaster, plumber, etc. At least in the US,

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 18:01, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. I don't think so, but I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons. I see a fashion_designer as somebody who is

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 18:27, schrieb John Smith: I'd also consider things like hairdresser to be in shop, even though it might be seen as a craft, I'd too regard craft=hairdresser as an uncommon combination. Any votes against removing craft=hairdresser from the list of common values? same with

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 18:31, schrieb John Smith: craft=mechanic mechanic=[agriculture|marine|automotive] If craft=mechanic includes building custom machineries, then I'd like with this idea, otherwise i like Agricultural Equipment best. Same for craft=carpentry carpentry =

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 18:54, schrieb Brad Neuhauser: I guess I'm a little confused by the description A place producing or processing customised goods as it doesn't seem to fit some of these occupations, especially what I'd think of as the building trades: HVAC, electrician, carpentry, carpet,

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/7 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de: Am 07.09.2010 18:27, schrieb John Smith: I'd also consider things like hairdresser to be in shop, even though it might be seen as a craft, I'd too regard craft=hairdresser as an uncommon combination. Any votes against removing craft=hairdresser

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/7 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: How many lock smiths actually make something? The ones here sell and install alarm/security systems, cut keys etc... They don't make their own locks... probably that would be better shop=alarm_systems? or burglar_alarm? I think you'll find

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 September 2010 06:07, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/7 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: How many lock smiths actually make something? The ones here sell and install alarm/security systems, cut keys etc... They don't make their own locks... probably that

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread Peter Körner
Am 07.09.2010 21:43, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: IMHO that's a taylor. A fashion designer is designing clothes that then get produced in the textile industry. I removed craft=fashion from the list craft=photo is too generic, there is not explanation given (just questionmarks), and it isn't a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread edodd
Am 07.09.2010 18:01, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: craft=fashion should be fashion_designer to correpond to the translation, but still this is not a craft. I would put it in office. I don't think so, but I'd be happy to discuss the pros and cons. I see a fashion_designer as somebody who

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread edodd
I'm not happy that these questions did't came up during RFC stage but now during the voting stage. Does anybody think this is a problem for the validity of the votes? Peter No votes are valid, so the validity of current votes is unaffected.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/7 ed...@billiau.net: This discussion is because 'craft' is not the best English word. there is a WIkipedia-article that is translated in German into Handwerk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_%28occupation%29 but you can already see by the content and length of the article that it

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John F. Eldredge
Locksmiths who repair shoes? I hadn't heard of that combination before. Wouldn't that be tagged separately as a locksmith and a shoe repair shop, instead of simply tagging it as a locksmith? ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft From

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Feature Proposal - Voting - Craft

2010-09-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 September 2010 12:15, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Locksmiths who repair shoes? I hadn't heard of that combination before. Wouldn't that be tagged separately as a locksmith and a shoe repair shop, instead of simply tagging it as a locksmith? They also sell key chains