Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:28 AM, John Willis wrote: > At a lot of tool stores they sell a cheap little metal tab that is a key > fob, and it has various tabs along its sides that are shaped for standard > and phillips screws (a tapered tab to fit into one of the slots on a > phillips screw). > >

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

At a lot of tool stores they sell a cheap little metal tab that is a key fob, and it has various tabs along its sides that are shaped for standard and phillips screws (a tapered tab to fit into one of the slots on a phillips screw). Put it on your keyring and you can open a lot more sizes of sc

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > One could tag every power outlet that seems to be in a public space. For > many years I charged my laptop at > >> airports by finding the places the cleaning crew plugged in their vacuum >> cleaners. But that sort of accidental >> chargin

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:07 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: > > > > > > Why does everything have to be a 'station'? A station is a place > > where > > trains stop, not where you plug your phone in. Plus it makes the tag > > unnecessarily verbos

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One could tag every power outlet that seems to be in a public space. For many years I charged my laptop at > airports by finding the places the cleaning crew plugged in their vacuum > cleaners. But that sort of accidental > charging station is of a different character to a designated place. >

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 11/06/2015 2:38 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station The name

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > +1 > I would expect an available mains socket is the norm, a USB socket is > rather fragile for public use. There are tens of thousands of public USB sockets. Vendors in China make special rugged sockets just for this. Plus, if you take t

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:07 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: > > > Why does everything have to be a 'station'? A station is a place > where > trains stop, not where you plug your phone in. Plus it makes the tag > unnecessarily verbose, and more prone to errors. > Simpler to just tag amenity=device_

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 2015-06-10 07:44, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3539479319/history I strongly feel that amenity=charging_station is fully entrenched as a

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station >> > The name works well for the intended use. > > However it limits the use of the tag. > For

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 10/06/2015 4:44 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station The name works well for the intended use. However it limits the use of the tag. For example .. a tourist might be able t

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Here's a writeup on a "Duck" tag for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Device_Charging_Station https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3539479319/history I strongly feel that amenity=charging_station is fully entrenched as a vehicle charging station, and thus a new tag

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 26/05/2015 6:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 25.05.2015 um 17:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : amenity=charging_station fee=no access=public socket:USB=yes socket:typeb=yes motor_vehicle=no There are currently only 7 socket:typeb=* in the world including the 6 I just added and a similar

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

> Am 27.05.2015 um 00:42 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > So, you favour tagging for the renderer ? > > If it's a charging station it should be tagged as such and indicate what it > will charge. yes, but there is no established tag for a generic charging station, there is one for vehicle ch

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 26 May 2015 at 18:32, Andrew Guertin wrote: > On 05/23/2015 12:47 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > >> In the meantime I have tagged those areas with >> amenity=charging_station until we resolve this question. >> > > By going against the documentation, you are breaking the data for > consumers that

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 05/23/2015 12:47 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: In the meantime I have tagged those areas with amenity=charging_station until we resolve this question. By going against the documentation, you are breaking the data for consumers that follow the documentation. At the very least Osmand 2.0.4 shows

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> Am 25.05.2015 um 17:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > amenity=charging_station > fee=no > access=public > socket:USB=yes > socket:typeb=yes > motor_vehicle=no > > There are currently only 7 socket:typeb=* in the world including the 6 I just > added and a similar number of socket:USB=* acc

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Right, because there is no reasonable middle ground... On 25/05/2015 10:42 PM, Andreas Goss wrote: If you have a flat battery in your phone/laptop and want to charge it .. it is usefull to know where a public power socket is available. And then is HAS TO BE on opentreetmap.org? A charing app

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 25/05/2015 10:42 PM, Andreas Goss wrote: If you have a flat battery in your phone/laptop and want to charge it .. it is usefull to know where a public power socket is available. And then is HAS TO BE on opentreetmap.org? A charing app or map is not good enough? Well then ... a shop app or

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Well, this discussion could go on forever and I need a tag. For the time being, I'm using the following tagging until something more definite is decided amenity=charging_station fee=no access=public socket:USB=yes socket:typeb=yes motor_vehicle=no There are currently only 7 socket:typeb=* in the

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

If you have a flat battery in your phone/laptop and want to charge it .. it is usefull to know where a public power socket is available. And then is HAS TO BE on opentreetmap.org? A charing app or map is not good enough? __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Use

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AYTOUN RALPH wrote: > Then the next thing they will need to know is the type of socket so type=* > (example ... plug_UK ; plug_EU ; USB123 ; USB_C) It is customary in osm to avoid type=*, except for relations. Type of what, i.e. power_socket=* or socket=plug_UK (or, rather, the better values someb

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On 25/05/2015 3:43 AM, Andreas Goss wrote: The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they

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> Am 24.05.2015 um 17:30 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > I'd have suggested that but the cynic in me state that by the time this > becomes popular I wouldn't be surprised you won't be able to charge a Ford in > a GM outlet ! (ok, my original thought was more car charging and other elec > vehicle

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Am 24.05.2015 um 19:43 schrieb Andreas Goss : >> The tag 'amenity' automatically indicates it is for public use and so >> should not be used to tag every private domestic plug in a home. > > Mh... no. It doesn't. yes, it does ;-) cheers Martin ___

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On 24 May 2015 at 18:43, Andreas Goss wrote: > The idea is to get this rendered on the map. >> >> My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking >> for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every >> different type of outlet in the world. >> >> Then

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they will need to know is the type of socket so

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

The idea is to get this rendered on the map. My opt is for amenity=power_socket which is what people will be looking for. It will be impossible to have a different symbol to indicate every different type of outlet in the world. Then the next thing they will need to know is the type of socket so t

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Bit long winded... how about vehicle_charging .. for motor vehicles bicycle_charging .. for bicycles And then you have this http://www.bike-energy.com/ and that tagging isn't as nice anymore. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 24 May 2015 at 15:42, Dave Swarthout wrote: > @Martin - I'm not aware of any different types of USB socket - are you > referring to USB 2.0, and USB 3.0? > > If so, that can be handled by another tag, e.g. USB:version or USB:type. > > I can think of 5 types Standard flat Standard square +3 sm

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 24 May 2015 at 10:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > > Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . : > > On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag was >> designed with vehicles in mind. >> > > Well if it's a VE

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I forgot about USB-C. I don't know when we'll start seeing those but the socket type should be included in our list of possibilities. Agree too about the charging current. Even though quite useful, I suspect that information will be tough to gather. My iPhone was taking so long to charge in the USB

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There are two types of "big sides" (as far as charging is concerned): USB 1/2/3 which we all know, and then there's USB type C - new, reversible - not compatible cable-wise. Also the max. charging current might be useful to know. At 500mA it takes a lng time to charge a tablet - so kno

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Or is is what Todd mentioned (his post came just after I sent mine)? The various small USB connectors, mini-, micro-, etc., are designed for different appliances and vary in size. But the big side is standard. On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:42 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > @Martin - I'm not aware of an

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

@Martin - I'm not aware of any different types of USB socket - are you referring to USB 2.0, and USB 3.0? If so, that can be handled by another tag, e.g. USB:version or USB:type. On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/05/2015 7:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer w

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> On May 24, 2015, at 2:07 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: >> Am 24.05.2015 um 06:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : >> >> @Martin, I think the two words connected with a colon is the best choice. >> It's already in use: socket:USB=* > > > there're different types of USB sockets so I'd be more spe

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On 24/05/2015 7:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . >: On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout > wrote: The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

> Am 24.05.2015 um 06:18 schrieb Dave Swarthout : > > @Martin, I think the two words connected with a colon is the best choice. > It's already in use: socket:USB=* there're different types of USB sockets so I'd be more specific here cheers Martin

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Am 23.05.2015 um 20:08 schrieb pmailkeey . : >> On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout wrote: >> The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag was >> designed with vehicles in mind. > > Well if it's a VEHICLE charging station, it should have said that. They > didn

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New, yes, but increasingly common. One of my recent flights was on a 777 equipped with both electric (115 v American "standard") and USB outlets. While many of those chargers you speak of John, the iPhone chargers for example, plug into a wall socket the output goes to the phone via the USB socket

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Electric outlets that have a USB-style connector, for charging cell phones and other portable devices, are fairly new. I don't recall seeing any until about a year ago. So, there is not yet a common name for them, to distinguish them from conventional electric outlets that offer only 120V AC.

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> Am 23.05.2015 um 01:56 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt : > > amenity=device_charging_station > socket:ac=2 > socket:usb=4 (there are two types Android and Apple, but I gloss over that) > socket:apple_30_pin=4 or man_made / amenity=power_outlet socket_type=usb_a socket_count=4 cheers Martin _

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 23 May 2015 at 17:47, Dave Swarthout wrote: > The Wiki article clearly teaches that the amenity=charging_station tag was > designed with vehicles in mind. > Well if it's a VEHICLE charging station, it should have said that. They didn't specify what changing it was in the name - so it's surely

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 23 May 2015 at 06:57, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > If you're mapping a duck, call it a duck not a > creature=thing_with_feathers legs=2 quacking=yes. > > > Surely a duck is an amenity ? After all, it enhances the 'park' experience. Bread_vending=no. -- Mike. @millomweb

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g_station until we resolve this question. Regards Dave On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Mark Bradley wrote: > > Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 17:29:27 +1000 > > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Airport powe

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

> Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 17:29:27 +1000 > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > To: tagging@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations > Message-ID: <55602c57.1090...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Fo

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On 23/05/2015 3:57 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Dave Swarthout mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond fully after I reach my final destination. amenity=charging_station with sub

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On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond > fully after I reach my final destination. > > amenity=charging_station with subtags for clarification seems to fill the > bill. > > I think that's a choice with hi

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

Thanks for the great suggestions. I'm typing on an iPhone so will respond fully after I reach my final destination. amenity=charging_station with subtags for clarification seems to fill the bill. On Friday, May 22, 2015, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23/05/2015 9:56 AM, Bryce Nesbi

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 23/05/2015 9:56 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Duck tagging it's not. One could consider the horrors of tagging: *amenity=charging_station voltage=5 socket:usb=4* From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station But I think that's just as bad an idea as amenity=

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Duck tagging it's not. One could consider the horrors of tagging: *amenity=charging_stationvoltage=5socket:usb=4* >From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station But I think that's just as bad an idea as amenity=fuel;vehicle=no. ---

Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

On 23 May 2015 at 00:19, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I'm sitting in the Seattle airport trying to figure out how to tag areas > that offer a power outlet and USB outlets for charging or powering > computers and other devices. There are many of them here at SEA and they > are important places for tr

[Tagging] Airport power and USB stations

I'm sitting in the Seattle airport trying to figure out how to tag areas that offer a power outlet and USB outlets for charging or powering computers and other devices. There are many of them here at SEA and they are important places for travelers to know about. I tagged a few of them with amenity=