Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-03 Thread John Eldredge
This makes sense to me. In Nashville, Tennessee, USA, where I live, it is becoming stylish for young professional people to live in downtown apartments. These buildings usually have retail, restaurants, and/or offices at ground level and perhaps a floor or two higher, then apartments (flats) o

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 23:46 schrieb John Willis : > > Is there some easily understood dividing line between a "building" and a > "high-rise building" in OSM or the real world? I guess it is country specific, maybe even depends on the city or state. In Germany the rule is: if

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 22:38 schrieb Daniel Koć : > > Current Simple 3D Buildings specification basically tells to slice the > buildings with building:levels=* and building:min_level=*, so we better use > this notation. yes, kind of like this is the way. I must admit that I do

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-09-01 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
On Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree. There clearly are typologies with retail (and offices) in the ground > floor and residential (or offices) in the upper IMO an apartment building with shops on the first floor is still an apartment building. Even the description of building=apartments menti

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 01.09.2015 2:20, Warin napisał(a): I and I suspect many others are not familiar with indoor mapping .. and the wiki does not help the beginner here. But the simple mapper wants a tag to describe the building= .. without going into the details of what is inside, the levels, roof ... they w

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Warin
On 1/09/2015 6:38 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 31.08.2015 21:37, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): or different objects: A building:part=supermarket level=-1 B building:part=office_block level=0-6 A 'good idea'. This should be much easier to parse - and it's also 3D friendly. Current Simple

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Warin
On 31/08/2015 11:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 30.08.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Severin Menard : Is there a way to tag properly buildings mixing residential and commercial uses (typically shops on the basement opening on the street)? What's the building typology? Shape

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Warin
On 31/08/2015 11:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 31.08.2015 um 00:58 schrieb John Willis : As these are so different from the multi-floor urban-mixed 3-25 story apartment buildings with shops 3 storey buildings are normally quite different to 25 storey buildings for

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread John Willis
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > 3 storey buildings are normally quite different to 25 storey buildings for > various reasons (e.g. safety regulations, usage intensity, ...) Is there some easily understood dividing line between a "building" and a "high-rise bu

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 31.08.2015 21:37, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a): or different objects: A building:part=supermarket level=-1 B building:part=office_block level=0-6 This should be much easier to parse - and it's also 3D friendly. Current Simple 3D Buildings specification basically tells to slice the b

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 14:17 schrieb Tod Fitch : > > Completed, the look of the buildings is pretty recognizable from the street > with the fairly tall retail floor below and shorter floors of obvious > residential above. I guess it could be confused with a badly designed urban

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 31.08.2015 um 00:58 schrieb John Willis : > > As these are so different from the multi-floor urban-mixed 3-25 story > apartment buildings with shops 3 storey buildings are normally quite different to 25 storey buildings for various reasons (e.g. safety regulations, us

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.08.2015 um 17:05 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : > > For example, how one is supposed to tag building constructed as church, > that is used now for commercial purposes? I d say it depends how the building appears now after the conversion. In doubt I'd use church. chee

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 30.08.2015 um 16:43 schrieb Severin Menard : > > Is there a way to tag properly buildings mixing residential and commercial > uses (typically shops on the basement opening on the street)? What's the building typology? Shape? How many floors? Courtyard/s? Adjacent buil

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 31.08.2015 14:17, Tod Fitch napisał(a): So building=apartments obviously is not accurate. Nor is building=retail. Apartments here are considered commercial so I could see a mapper using building=commercial even though OSM would frown on that. It makes sense to me to tag that building styl

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Tod Fitch
In my area there are a number of new buildings either recently completed or still under construction that can only be described as a mixed use type: The street level is steel and concrete construction and designed specifically for retail. Above that are 3 to 5 wood framed floors specifically des

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread johnw
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it better to bite the bullet and start sub tagging correctly ... thus > for a retail mixed with apartments I would still like to separate mixed use buildings there there are multiple disparate tenants per building

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-31 Thread Danijel Schorlemmer
What about building=apartments building:use=residential;commercial (or retail) building=mixed doesn't seem to me to be a useful building tag. The building tag should describe the type of building, not its use. Cheers On Monday, August 31, 2015 10:26:27 AM Warin wrote: > On 31/08/2015 8:58 AM

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-30 Thread Warin
On 31/08/2015 8:58 AM, John Willis wrote: On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: uilding=commercial is quite suspect. To me, there are 2 basic types of mixed use buildings. mixed_use_urban And mixed_use_house There are so many different combinations of retail, residential,

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-30 Thread John Willis
> On Aug 31, 2015, at 12:05 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > uilding=commercial is quite suspect. To me, there are 2 basic types of mixed use buildings. mixed_use_urban And mixed_use_house There are so many different combinations of retail, residential, hotel, and commercial (and in come c

Re: [Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:43:34 -0300 Severin Menard wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to tag properly buildings mixing residential and > commercial uses (typically shops on the basement opening on the > street)? Building=commercial is defined as "A building where > non-specific commercial activities

[Tagging] Buildings mixing residential and commercial use

2015-08-30 Thread Severin Menard
Hi, Is there a way to tag properly buildings mixing residential and commercial uses (typically shops on the basement opening on the street)? Building=commercial is defined as "A building where non-specific commercial activities take place", that does not describe what are the other activities taki