[Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread yo paseopor
Hi! When I tag the access to a way reading the meaning of the traffic sign I miss some specific conditions. I know I can do it at general times with key access, but in specific cases access is so "small for me". There are also conditional tags but with these two keys I don't arrive to cover local

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Philip Barnes
Local bus is already covered by the psv tag, public service vehicle. I assume by schoolar you mean scholar? I would consider scholar an outdated term, something my grandparents used to say. It is more common to refer to students in modern English, which I believe is what you have in Spanish? Ph

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Lionel Giard
I'm not seeing much difference seeing "designated=bicycle" versus the in-use combinaison "bicycle=designated" (same for the other common tag like motor_vehicle) except that the first one would use a different "access paradigm" than everything else. That's not really a simplification to me, and i do

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Johnparis
I agree that it is theoretically a problem for the software not to use access:bicycle=yes (for example) instead of bicycle=yes. I believe I've seen (from Thorsten?) a list of such tags, as a hierarchy. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Land-based_transportation Data consumers always h

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Sep 2018, at 12:44, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Local bus is already covered by the psv tag, public service vehicle. +1, the “bus” tag means local bus, coaches (other vehicles of type bus that don’t act as psv) are tagged with “tourist_bus” Cheers, Martin __

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 9. Sep 2018, at 14:53, Johnparis wrote: > > BTW, I have deduced through observation that certain "wild" access tags are > the equivalent of access=no + [access_type]=yes. So, for example, a simple > "access=bicycle" means "bicycle only" which is equivalent to the stand

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-09 Thread Johnparis
I said "for example." Taginfo has 2716 different values for the "access" key, only a few of which are documented. On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 11:48 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > On 9. Sep 2018, at 14:53, Johnparis wrote: > > BTW, I have deduced through observation that

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Sep 2018, at 01:09, Johnparis wrote: > > I said "for example." Taginfo has 2716 different values for the "access" key, > only a few of which are documented. there’ll always be a long tail in a system that allows to use any tags you like. Documentation makes most

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-10 Thread Marc Gemis
What if there are 2 groups that have designated access (e.g. foot & bicycle) ? Then we have to start the discussion of the semi-colon separator all over again, during which someone will propose to move the value back to the key (or as part of a key). and we end up with bicycle=designated; foot=desi

Re: [Tagging] Designated value as a key

2018-09-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 09/09/2018 13:53, Johnparis wrote: I agree that it is theoretically a problem for the software not to use access:bicycle=yes (for example) instead of bicycle=yes. I believe I've seen (from Thorsten?) a list of such tags, as a hierarchy. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Land-bas